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Click to view Power666's User Page Power666 (25)  Talk to Power666 in the Shout! Box Mar 26, 2007 - 02:14 pm
I've had my share of negative experiences with Linux. For example I consistently had openSUSE 10.1 crash on me during the installation process. The issue at had was that it was running out of memory. The machine had 384 MB of RAM and bringing it to 512 MB solved the problem, but I was hoping for something a bit more lean. I know that virtual memory hadn't been enabled but you think just for the installer, it'd be fine with 384 MB of RAM.

For data center and server work, Linux is great and I only see Linux improving in this area. I see a market for smaller distributions leanly cut to run one or two applications using virtualization.

That type of Linux use is for professionals not the average user. Linux does have its merits but until the set up and usability (like dual monitors etc.) issues resolved it will never be a replacement for Windows for the average user.

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Click to view kevinSpiess's User Page kevinSpiess (156)  Click to view kevinSpiess's User Profile Talk to kevinSpiess in the Shout! Box Mar 25, 2007 - 10:56 pm
I have Debian OS on my computer but don't use it very much. Good OS though. I ran Suse for about a year. Didn't end up using that much either. Man, getting my 9200 radeon working on SuSe took quite the herculean effort.

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Click to view indigo196's User Page indigo196 (249)  Click to view indigo196's User Profile Talk to indigo196 in the Shout! Box Mar 25, 2007 - 02:13 pm
» Wow -- someone really disliked that article.
A rating of a one -- with no comments to boot.

Wish I knew if it were my writing, the fact I tried Linux, or that I failed at getting Beryl to run dual-monitor on an ATI card.

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Click to view dbd's User Page dbd (22)  Talk to dbd in the Shout! Box Mar 26, 2007 - 05:21 pm
Wow, Beryl + Dual-head + ATI, now that's bound to be painful.
Beryl is still very early beta, it looks damn cool, but can be hard to set up, especially when mixing it with stuff like dual monitors.
Also, the ATI drivers are not up to standard yet. They can do all the basic stuff, but with fancy stuff like Beryl (or wine for that matter) it tends to take a little work to get them working. Just out of interest, did you use the proprietary fglrx drivers or the free-software/open-source radeon drives?

Your article is misleading, dual-monitors does not require rocket science. Dual-monitors PLUS very experimental early beta desktop effects (which are better than Vista's or Mac OSX's BTW) is not gonna be easy until Beryl and Compiz mature a bit. Expect that in October's release, which is likely to focus on Beryl and Compiz a lot more.

As for NTFS partitions, the reason is that everything to do with how NTFS works is kept secret by Microsoft, they make it painfully hard for anyone else to access them. Even reading NTFS drives from outside Windows was a massive feat of reverse engineering. Also, AFAIK, writing to NTFS now 99.9% works, but is disabled by default, since you don't want to run that risk.

And what were your problems with dual boot? I've never seen Ubuntu have any problems at all with dual booting with Windows.

By the way, just rated you a 1. Not because you slated Ubuntu (although that may have biased me a little), but because the article is of no use to anyone. All it says is that you tried linux and had troubles. You don't even highlight the fact that you were messing around with experimental software (there is a reason beryl is not gonna be installed in fiesty by default), rather than just normal Linux.

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Click to view indigo196's User Page indigo196 (249)  Talk to indigo196 in the Shout! Box Mar 26, 2007 - 09:19 pm | Edited on Mar 26, 2007 - 09:21 pm
It wasn't meant to be an article about Linux. It was meant to be an article about my experience with Linux.

I have since tried openSuSE and reverted back to Ubuntu -- its cleaner. I did take some things I learned from the openSuSE how-to articles and apply them to Ubuntu.

To be honest I am running Ubuntu on my work machine now (I manage AD so that is saying something) and I have loaded ntfs-3g to access my NTFS partitions, VMWare Server to run a VM Windows Machine, and RDP to my servers to manage them. What a difference a week makes when you are willing to push forward.

I appologize that you thought this was an article acout Linux; if it had been I would have been much more detailed and taken a bit more time to research it. I did manage to get Beryl and Dual monitors running on my Nvidia machine -- but not the ATI machine. Nvidia is miles ahead with their driver. I didn't find Beryl to be all that and a bag of chips so I went back to simple Gnome and Metacity -- stablity is more important to me right now.

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Click to view OldFriend's User PageI am an AMD Agent OldFriend (178)  Click to view OldFriend's User Profile Talk to OldFriend in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Mar 25, 2007 - 10:05 pm
hahah it wasn't me, but i hafta be honest, i've been tempted to rate everyone a 1 just to see what it feels like to be a dick, and cuz it doesn't matter this rd.

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Click to view CanadaDave's User PageI am an AMD Agent CanadaDave (303)  Click to view CanadaDave's User Profile Talk to CanadaDave in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Mar 24, 2007 - 03:39 pm | Edited on Mar 24, 2007 - 04:12 pm
Sorry, dude, Linux can be tough for that sort of thing at times.

Does this help?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174

That's for the dual monitor bit, anyway. The detection routines in it are kind of weak, which is really unfortunate.

That'll always be the difference between for-profit and community-supported. Eventually, people boil it down to "forget this - I'll just buy Windows", or they dig in and power through it. Either way, though, it's a tough slog. :)

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Click to view indigo196's User Page indigo196 (249)  Click to view indigo196's User Profile Talk to indigo196 in the Shout! Box Mar 24, 2007 - 05:00 pm | Edited on Mar 25, 2007 - 02:12 pm
The problem was with Beryl and dual-head not just dual-head.

Update -- I am going to give up on Beryl... its still in beta and appears to need a bit more experienced Linux user to tweak. I am going to run Gnome or Elightenment for now.

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