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| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20730 |  SteelDog (119) Aug 15, 2008 - 11:24 am » Edited on Aug 15, 2008 - 03:53 pm
| "However, 45% seems pretty low"
How is 45% market share "low"? On what planet is that exactly? That's extremely high for console share.
"Yet you're going to tell me that the 360 is selling more s/w???? Honestly."
Yes I am saying that the 360 has sold more software. Those are not my numbers. They are the NPD for all of 2007 and so far in 2008. It's fact whether or not you believe it or not. Here is another fact. The NPD numbers don't include the $180 million in software sales from XBOX live in the last 12 months. Are you trying to say those numbers are not a significant factor in the console wars? If so, I want to attend your economics class.
"As far as 3rd party developers, I think it depends on which one you talk to. You're making the mistake of painting them all with one broad brush."
There are always exceptions. I didn't cmment on a per developer basis. However, the overall picture is clear based on the facts. According to the NPD 360 is accounting for 46% of 3rd party development profit. Nobody else is close.
By the way this about who is winning this generation. Not about who is winning the race in hardware sales. When you look at the overall success of any generation of consoles it's not about just hardware sales. Trying telling that to Sony or MS who depend on software sales to determine the overall profitability of their gaming divisions to make up for hardware losses.
"Console wars have been and forever will be decided by who sells more hardware. Period. THE END."
Wrong. Console wars will forever be decided by who is the most profitable at the end of the day. Hardware sales is nothing more then bragging rights without software sales. They go hand in hand. You can't determine the success of a console without looking at both. If you do, then you bought into the marketing hype spewed from Nintendo, MS and Sony.
PS, I don't just own the 360 and have no vested interest in one of the consoles gong belly up. That would be a waste of my investment. You can't even call me a console fan boy because I love PC gaming as well. So I guess I am just a gaming fan boy. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20728 | SteelDog (119) Aug 05, 2008 - 10:38 am
| I agree. He is not saying the Xbox 360 has to look worse. In fact, he says just the opposite about the 360 GPU and memory configuration being better on the 360.
This is about him using leverage to get MS to drop the licensing fees for using multiple discs. This comes off more as if you don't eliminate this fee, I will make an inferior game for your system. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20734 | SteelDog (119) Aug 05, 2008 - 10:31 am
| That's fine. I don't want my avatar to be in game for all my games anyway. As long as my avatars are available for use on my dashboard, I am cool with that.
Though I admit, taking a chainsaw in a game to someones else's avatar could be fun. :-) Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20730 | SteelDog (119) Aug 05, 2008 - 10:17 am » Edited on Aug 05, 2008 - 10:24 am
| To the anonymous poster. Ofcouse hardware sales are important. It gets the consoles in the hands of the consumer. However, you just ignored my point. The sell through rate for software for the Wii is horrid for 3rd party titles. Nintendo is the only one making money from a hardware and software perspective. Nintendo cares more about pushing the hardware then the success of the software sales of 3rd party developers. If you want every hit Wii game to include Mario great. If not it stinks especially for 3rd party developers.
According to NPD for 2007. XBOX 360 made up 45% of total software sales for the "next Gen" consoles. 11 of it's titles were in the top 20 for the year. According to NPD (as of June 2008), the 360 still has a higher software attach rate then any other console. According to NPD multi-platform titles sell better on the 360 then any other console.
So explain to me exactly that says Nintendo is winning? Yes they have sold more hardware units but if nobody is buying the software how is that going to bode for the long term outlook for 3rd party development? I don't see droves of 3rd party exclusives coming to the Wii.
The success of a console is much more than hardware unit sold. Software is a big part of that. If you want to ignore the facts then who is deluded exactly?
PS. I own both the Wii and Xbox 360. I find games much more hit and miss with the the Wii because most of the games outside of Nintendo can't get the control schemes down wich makes the games crappy compared to the versions on the 360 or PS3. So like many others we tend to purchase more of the Nintendo titles on the Wii and buy everything else on the 360. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20730 | SteelDog (119) Aug 03, 2008 - 09:13 pm » Edited on Aug 03, 2008 - 09:19 pm
| Your leaving out one very important point. The Wii sell through rate for their games is the worst of the 3 consoles. The only people making money right now on the Wii is Nintendo.
You kidding yourself if you think that the 360 isn't ahead in this generation when you factor in the install base, the software units sold and the high sales figures coming out of Xbox live. Look at software sold to date. Nothing comes close to the 360.
Plus I would argue that the Wii is not a next generation game system competing directly with the PS3 and 360. It's a gimicky family machine. The crown goes to the 360 this gen and yes I agree it's over. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20728 | SteelDog (119) Aug 01, 2008 - 02:51 pm
| Sounds like crap to me. With the new feature coming to the 360 to offload the game to the hard drive, there should be no limitation issues. You compress the game files on the DVD, uncompress on the hard drive and you have as much room as you need.
This really should be a non-issue. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20658 | SteelDog (119) Jul 13, 2008 - 10:58 am
| Great move my 360 camp. They are going for the throat with a PS3 division that is struggling to sell software and is losing money hand over fist by selling the PS3 for less then it costs to make.
I think Sony is depending too much on the Blu Ray to save it's bacon. With Blu Ray sales not taking off like everyone expected, it's not pushing PS3 sales either. This is put up or shut up time for the PS3. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20663 | SteelDog (119) Jul 13, 2008 - 10:28 am » Edited on Jul 13, 2008 - 10:35 am
| For all the posters boasting the PS3's superior technology...it's a wonder the XBOX 360 stands up graphically to any PS3 game. lol.
The PS3 is good deal for the Blu Ray player and that's about it. The sell through game rate is horrid and the install base is behind. Alot of good that cell processor is doing to blow away the 360. It's hampered by the PS3 configuration.
The PS3 needs to concentrate on software sales to make up for the losses of the hardware. Unless software sales pick up the PS3 is doomed to fail. They can't afford to keep lowering the price. They can't afford for their franchise like games Grant Theft Auto IV to outsell on a rivals platform like the 360.
Like Sony did with the PS2, the 360 camp has had time to remanufacture the console, shrink the chipset and so on. The manufacturing price is being lowered because of the life cycle of the console not because the tech is so inferior to the PS3. Both consoles are not even close to having the latest and greatest graphics tech, memory configuration or motherboard design. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=20159 | SteelDog (119) Mar 26, 2008 - 01:22 pm
| » 2 Sides
There are 2 schools of thought here. For the Shareholders the buyout of Take2 makes sense and is probably a mistake in terms of rejecting it.
However, then there is the impact on the gamer. This would be a disaster based on EA's history. Development, originality and competitiveness of competing Sports franchises to drive better games would take a huge hit. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=19716 | SteelDog (119) Feb 25, 2008 - 08:50 am » Edited on Feb 25, 2008 - 08:51 am
| This is an obvious attempt by EA to thwart its main competition in Sports games. First they bought off the NFL for licensing. Now because they are getting their butt kicked in other sports games by 2K year after year they trying to buy 2k. If you can't beat em...buy em.
This is bad in every sense. EA is such a churn and burn company. If they do this, it will erode the quality of the 2K franchise and their will be no competition. Look no further then EA's history of buying franchises. Medal Of Honor anybody? Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=19044 | SteelDog (119) Jan 09, 2008 - 12:32 pm
| Good for EGM. This has long been something in the backround of Gaming review for years. IMO at times has pressured gaming magazines to "pull up" so to speak on the bashing even if it's deserved.
If the gaming reviews want to keep their credibility they cannot be pressured by publishers. If the only way they can counter that is by "threatening" in their own way to publish the name of those publishers then so be it.
GO EGM! Let's hope others follow this example. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=19045 | SteelDog (119) Jan 09, 2008 - 08:48 am » Edited on Jan 09, 2008 - 08:49 am
| That was the plan from day 1. MS wanted it to be an add-on unlike the PS3 so that if one of the formats failed it could adopt the other. It obviously was a sound decision considering HD DVD coming demise.
I also guarantee that a future version of the 360 will come with a built in Blu Ray drive if the rumors about MS licensing out the 360 tech to other manufacturers to come out with custom 360's is true. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=18991 | SteelDog (119) Jan 06, 2008 - 06:39 pm
| Word is that Warner took somewhere between 200 and 500 million dollar payment to go Blu-Ray. Unbelievable.
Also, Disney voted to support the 51 GB HD DVD standard as the above poster stated. So if Disney does go both ways...you can count this far from being over.
If Disney comes out and says that they have zero plans of supporting HD DVD...game over. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=18757 | SteelDog (119) Dec 14, 2007 - 11:10 am
| » Too little too late
As usual an EA doesn't live up to the hype. The Single player campaign was OK but online play sucks. EA under delivers then releases a 1.3 GIG patch?!?!?!!?
As usual EA was churning and burning with this title. Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=18416 | SteelDog (119) Nov 21, 2007 - 02:52 pm
| | Why does PR types always cop to comparing sales of PS2 to PS3? Doesn't make sense. The PS2 didn't have the likes of the Wii and 360 Sales to compete with it then. The PS2 had very weak competition compared to this gen. Talk about reaching!!!! Flag this | Edit this post |
| News Link » /news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=18348 | SteelDog (119) Nov 16, 2007 - 09:09 am
| Wii is an enigma. The Wii is selling more consoles but they are not selling any games on the system.
The XBOX 360 is still going strong with the PS3 still pulling up the rear. The PS3 may have doubled sales but the end result is still poor sales figures.
I am interested to find out if Sony will continue it's reputation of a long console cycle if by next year the PS3 continues to languish. Flag this | Edit this post |
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