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Posted by Marcus Yam on Wednesday February 02, 2000 - 01:00 AM

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» New Viper II Drivers Flex T&L Muscles

S3/DiamondMM has released a set of beta drivers for their Savage2000 based Viper II Z200. Stated reasons for release: To improve 2D performance, improve Direct3D performance; and resolve issues with Unreal Tournament. Here's the direct download (5.5MB) and the Readme documentation.

According to SDN, there's a hidden goodie in this beta release as well- Transformation and Lighting finally being enabled in hardware!

[HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Display\Settings]
"ICDHWTL"="OFF"

TreeMark "Simple" benchmark: 5.64908 fps

[HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Display\Settings]
"ICDHWTL"="ON"

TreeMark "Simple" benchmark: 16.7954 fps

It would appear that hardware T&L support can be enabled under OpenGL with this driver release. It's disabled by default, and the key to enable it isn't normally present in the registry, so it may not be ready for heavy use yet.

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#28 Author: Anonymous at 05:27pm 02/11/2000  
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what ever. I dont think you are funny if that was your ame. Vodoo5
is the shitie ist game in the holl world so dont put that in your
comment eny more. bye the way did I tell you you are not funny.
hehehe. well gata go.

R/B

 
#27 Author: Anonymous at 05:22pm 02/11/2000  
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you suck there are no good games on this. this is so dumb, I dont
even know why I am sending you this letter to you. I dont even Know
how the hell you are. well sorry to wast you r time and for
desterbing you. not. well gat go.

R/B

 
#26 Author: Anonymous at 05:57pm 02/10/2000  
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Get the facts straight.
Geforce is not a first generation card.
It is based on technology that is almost 2 years mature now (TNT).
NVIDIA reference drivers are more stable in a wider range of games
than 3dfx reference drivers, any day. Just look at
fix-after-fix-after-fix in the past six months' 3dfx reference
drivers. Voodoo2 STILL does not run 3DMark2000 correctly. This is
technology that is almost 3 years mature now for god's sake!

3dfx is struggling and there is a reason for it: other companies
came out with better technology and began selling it for less. When
they could not reap the same huge profit margin with the Voodoo3's
as the Voodoo2's, the tailspin begun.

The poster who said S3 brought Diamond down is 100% incorrect. In
fact the company is more quality oriented than it ever has been.
Have you ever seen as many driver updates for as many S3 OR Diamond
products in such a short time? The results are clear: S3/Diamond
intends to make themselves a leader and they are doing the one best
thing they can do to gain that position - listening to end users and
taking their concerns to heart.

Oh, and by the way: your video card does not determine how long it
takes to get into a game. Go get a 3dfx card and then please
re-examine reality as your load times remain the same... then find
out the REAL reason for your frustrations.

If you can "gladly" give 3dfx your money for nothing more
than NVIDIA can give you (limited by your own system), then why
don't you just give your money to me (and the rest of us) instead?

 
#25 Author: Anonymous at 04:45am 02/8/2000  
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I'm DEFINETELY looking forward to the voodoo 5 agp. After reading
the SADDENING article posted by kyle over at HardOCP, I lost 95% of
the faith I had in Nvidia. Really. I own a V550 agp. I am MORE
THAN #@&!%% by the utter lack of driver support. More than that,
however, I am &&%# #@&!%% at Nvidia for putting out half &%# video
card(s). Sure the GeForce looks good now, because it's the ONLY
T&L enabled card, but I learned long ago to NEVER BUY ANYTHING
FIRST GENERATION!!!!! And that would include......You guessed it,
the GeForce. I've seen first hand how Nvidia cards suck, ESPECIALLY
FOR UT!!!!! I waited 2 minutes longer to join a lan game than a
friend on a voodoo2 8 meg! No thanks, Nvidia, I'll gladly give
3d/fx my money and business from now on. I'll continue this until
you brainless &###% bring out a REAL accelerator!


Money difference isn't huge either
Voodoo5 5500 agp=$299(fill rate of 667-733Mpixels per second)
Asus v6800 agp....$280(fill rate of (480Mpixelsper second)
you make the call...

 
#24 Author: Anonymous at 02:23am 02/8/2000  
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All I can say is when Diamond was bought by S3 I began to get
worried--since the merger they have done nothing to assuage my
fears. I bought a Viper330 and later a Viper550--but I don't plan
on Ever buying another Viper.


S3 pulled Diamond down--not the other way round.

 
#23 Author: Anonymous at 06:54pm 02/6/2000  
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This is interesting. As soon as the D3D drivers are ready, I'd like
to see this Kyle over at HardOCP put this thing up against his
GeForce numbers in 3DMark2000. It should kick some major butt!:)

 
#22 Author: Nuragani at 04:22pm 07/11/2002  
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Diamond just doesn't care about the end-user enough to make drivers.
Don't buy their hardware because they will not improve it...
They'll just ask you to buy new cards every 3 months. They want
those who had Viper 330's to go to 550's to 770's to Viper II's and
next they'll want you to go to Viper III's or something... where
they Will finally have the T&L done. Sound it was M80 to MX200
to MX300 to MX400... and next they'll ask you to shell out $150 to
get the MX500 if you want to do A3d or EAX good enough for games...
They just will not make new drivers... EVER!

 
#21 Author: Anonymous at 11:16pm 02/5/2000  
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You know, I try to keep an open mind and just go by performance...
but Diamond/S3 is one company that I say it is simply better to
simply avoid. I have troubles with the drivers for the soundcard
that my parents were dumb enough to force me to settle for when i
build this computer... I mean... it's not just that it isn't
supported in Linux... but It will not Work in NT/2000 beta, and it
takes about 6 hours of work that eventually end up with you having
to run a hacked install file for the updated drivers off their site
while autoplaying the CD or some crap like that... Add onto that
the fact that I tried to get a Rio500 at christmas time and they
were backordered until MARCH... I've decided that Diamond will
never be able to produce the goods. I'm never going to buy a
Diamond/S3 product again, i recommend the rest of you do the same!

 
#20 Author: Anonymous at 09:09am 02/4/2000  
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You've got to be kiding. S3 actually care about its customers? Who
here was burned with a Virge card that just last year they were
still supporting as a FANTASTIC card (Max PC article). All S3 did
by buying Diamond was to destroy two companies. How can you defend
them when they have release their last two video cards claiming
super high Mhz and releasing with 2 year old numbers. They are the
biggest blowhards I have ever seen (unfortunately it seems that 3dfx
is going the same way, no T&L what the F#@! ?)

 
#19 Author: Anonymous at 06:13pm 02/3/2000  
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Those are some pretty interesting benchmark numbers; at high-res
(1280x1024) enabling t&l actually SLOWS down the game. But then
again, these are only BETA. I am confident that S3 can deliver
proper drivers (S3 listening?).

 
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