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(Post a comment) » VIA Hits Back Against AllegationsVIA Technologies announced that it served Court papers on Intel in London on
14 February, requesting the Court to rule that VIA does not infringe Intel
patent number EP (UK) 0 804 763 regarding snoop timing, and that in any event
the Intel patent is invalid.
"We are going to vigorously fight the court actions that Intel has
brought against VIA," commented Richard Brown, Director of Marketing, VIA
Technologies, Inc. "We strongly believe that the patent infringement claims
they have made against us are totally without merit."
The Action is claim number HC 2000 No 645 and is brought in the Patents Court
of the Chancery Division of the High Court of Justice. The patent in
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Yoshi (View my Profile) at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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I hope this dosn't affect the KX 133 chips at all. Knowing Intel if
there is a way they will try to derail that chip as well.
I can't wait for the KX 133 motherboards. When they come out I will
buy an Athlon.
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Anonymous at 06:36am 02/28/2000
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>>>>>AMD chips run extremely hot, and compatiblity
isn't alway the best.<<<<<
Well you must be using the wrong cooling, my O/C Athlon 800 runs
cooler than a standard P3-800, and thats using the same H/S+Fan
Combo...
Please post where you got your heat information, because from the
results I have found, your talking BullShite about the AMD chips
running extreamly hot.
As to the compatibility issues, has an AMD chip ever had problems
adding numbers ? Nope, unlike the Intel counterparts. All processors
will have minor bugs, when you are talking over 10million
transistors on a 0.18micron wafer, thats ALOT of scope for a few
design bugs creaping in.
The AGP problems with AMD chips is in the 1st generation AMD 751 and
756 Northbridge/Southbridge chips. The 2nd generation and the new
VIA 133 chips do not suffer from this bug. I suggest you TRY the
technologies yourself before you start spouting about them, or at
the VERY least read up on your technologies.
As it currently stands 355 pounds for an Athlon 800, or 555 pounds
for an P3 800, I know which one is the best value.
Regards
O/C King
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Anonymous at 11:21am 02/26/2000
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Cyrix isnt releasing a top end processor, its releasing a low end
one. I dont know why all of you are putting intel down, they have
been the ones to advance the technolagy, theres nothing wrong with
compitition either. But what intels doing is wrong, Its like ford
sueing gm, because they put 4 tires on there car so it can run on
streets.
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Anonymous at 08:07am 02/25/2000
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I'm not understanding what you mean by AMD not being compatible with
a good 30% of the products out there.
USB is a spec. It is implemented into the motherboard.
Incompatibility results either from a poor implementation in the
chipset or in the device. Either way, saying you can't use 3 USB
devices has nothing to do with whether or not there is an AMD (or
any other non-Intel) chip in there. Both Intel and non-Intel
chipsets suffer from a number of bugs and errata.
The exact same goes for AGP. It's a spec that must be implemented
correctly by both chipset and card manufacturers.
Just because AMD's website only lists a few products doesn't mean
that the rest won't work. In fact, those are nothing but product
endorsements if anything.
This is the problem that most people have with understanding
computers. If there is a non-Intel chip inside the machine, then
people will blame all problems, especially hardware, on the fact
that Intel is not inside. CPU design engineers focus on maintaining
compatibility with the x86 instruction set.
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Anonymous at 08:15am 02/24/2000
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Just to bad to see that Intel doesn't have the courage to compete on
the market.. perhaps they shouldn't have concentrated so much on
Merced and concentrated on the P7 core instead..
intel's monopoly is broken, and now they are trying to fix it.. I'm
sure.. never Intel again.. can't stand their way of competing.. in
many ways like 3Dfx.. and where did it put them.. below nVidia..
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Anonymous at 07:37am 02/24/2000
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My little K6-2 350 (running at 412 with a 75mhz bus) running on a
NON SUPER 7 (FIC PA 2007 rev 1.2) board with a resistor connecting
the voltage jumper pins (instead of a normal jumper) in order to
achieve 2.2 volts seems compatable with my quantum fireball EX 6.4
gig HD, the I/O magic vortex 2 sound card, my older soundblaster PCI
64 card, my Toshiba sdm 1212 DVD drive, my mitsumi 4x2x8x CD-RW
drive, my voodoo 3 3k PCI card. It's comapatable with every game I
throw at it (it don't beat a intel chip in quake 3 though, but it
runs) it's compatable with my 128mb Micron PC-133 SDRAM, it was
compatable with my other 32 meg dimms. It was also compatable with
my hercules thriller 3d, a 30 gig western digital ATA 66 HD
oh wait, I forgot, this is a AMD chip so it should spontaniously
reboot 3 times an hour like my mom's iP54C 200mhz (thats PENTIUM MMX
to all the non techie ppl who should not be posting here because
they don't know shit) based computer with a faulty ram chip. (LOL I
removed the ram after I found it was the cause)
but really, give me a break. Please show some INTELigence, and not
just be so &&%&&#& biased. Just drop the prejudice and look at the
world without your eyes closed.
and BTW, can you name something OTHER then USB or AGP thats
incompatable? I'm not talking about software, I'm talking about
hardware. tell me and I'll try to get it and use it on my VERY OLD
motherboard. I'll bookmark this page and come back to see what the
INTEL PR guys say
Peace and Love, erase the hate,
The_King_Dave
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Anonymous at 09:21pm 02/23/2000
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Hmm..How can you say that it is so caomplatible?You have owned AMD
since you were 6 huh?Still haven't learned too much?What about k-6
,k6-2 k6-3 and the first release of Athlon?you must of missed those
eh?Out of all products out there Amd vs Intel as far as
combatiblilty goes AMD is not compatible with a good 30%
Take USB for instance if you don't belieave me on this one you can
go check it out at AMD's web site.out of a gazillion periphials for
USB AMD have no trouble with about 5 things.ANd what about AGP?
about half.I know cuz I own,have owned and plan on in the future to
own probably (maybee)both AMD and Intel.I see both ends of the
rainbow on this I use the Intel for my server and Athlon for
graphics and gaming and oh BTW I cant use 3 USB devices with it
because their not compatible!
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marschw at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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How can you say AMD has compatibility problems?? I've been using
x86 machines since I was six years old, and have only encountered 3
products which mentioned compatibility problems with AMD chips, and
one of them was a crack. The only time I've actually had trouble
with AMD compatibility is with the crack. About 1/3 of the
computers I've owned or used were AMD based.
And about the PR rating, it's not like saying you can overclock your
P3 500 to 600MHz -- that is actually changing the core speed. It is
a measure of performance, not core speed, and should be interpereted
as such -- that is, actually, the important part. I would agree
with you if the performance of the chip was near its core speed, but
it is way above the core speed. Do you expect them to advertise
that their chips are perform much worse than they really do? The
fact is, most consumers wouldn't know that the VIA chips perform so
much better than a comparably clocked AMD or Intel chip, so it is
the right decision for VIA to give their customers accurate
information that they understand.
Of course, if they decided on the PR ratings themselves, I would
object too since they would probably not be very accurate, but the
testing is performed by a third party and the PR ratings are
definetly accurate.
-=Marcus
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Anonymous at 06:34pm 02/23/2000
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Could you explain the compatibility problems a bit more?
If AMD wasn't compatible, they shouldn't (and wouldn't) advertise
that it is Microsoft Windows compatible or Linux compatible. Nor
would they have any sort of success or gaining popularity. People
would notice compatibility problems.
The only thing that Intel has that AMD doesn't are SSE instructions.
On the other hand, Intel doesn't have 3DNow!. However, Microsoft
supports both.
A lot of problems stem from the fact that budget systems see a lower
priced processor and bundle cheaper, lower quality products with it
in order to bring the system cost down. Often that problem is blamed
on the CPU manufacturer although there are many more components that
make up a computer.
Moral: AMD is compatible.
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LittleKing at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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I disagree with most of you that want to see via win. However, I do
like the competion that AMD and the other chip makers are giving
Intel, but I still like Intel over the other brands.
AMD chips run extremely hot, and compatiblity isn't alway the best.
As for VIA. I've never liked the cyrix line, and the way they
market their chips. PR rating, come on tell me the speed. Thats
like Intel and AMD saying that their 500MHz chip can be overclocked
to 600Mhz. Also their chipset aren't as good as Intel's, just look
at the article FS posted.
Anyway I'll get off my soap box now. I just had to back intel a
little bit. Hope I didn't hurt to many feelings.
LK
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