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Posted by Brandon Sandman Bell on Wednesday February 07, 2007 - 12:43 AM

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» Windows XP vs. Windows Vista Performance Part 2: NVIDIA

Last week we took a look at AMD's performance in Vista, comparing 3 different graphics cards in 4 operating systems. In today's article we're doing the same thing, this time with NVIDIA's latest ForceWare 100.59 driver. In addition, we've also included a Q&A with NVIDIA's VP of software engineering. Over the course of the interview we asked a number of questions on such topics as which versions of Vista are higher priority for driver development, overclocking the GeForce 8800's stream processors, and optimizing for the G80 architecture in general. Read NVIDIA's answers and check out our performance results in this article!

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Click to view scottwilkins's User Page scottwilkins (55)  Click to view scottwilkins's User Profile Talk to scottwilkins in the Shout! Box Feb 10, 2007 - 09:02 pm
» Vista's worth getting now, as long as you run ATI
I'm running 64-bit Vista with an X1900XTX and it runs perfectly. I'm sorry the nVidia guys are having so many problems, but ATI can be given kudos for not rushing stuff to market this time and working to get the software right. Vista is good, and no, it not XP. If you like XP, stick with it. If you want more out of your OS, get Vista. Anyone (like Kessandra) stating "wait a year" is living under a rock. Hey, the Earth is still moving, get on or get left behind...

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Click to view nones's User Page nones (28)  Talk to nones in the Shout! Box Feb 10, 2007 - 02:23 am
xp forever. all u need is dx10....
hackers get 2 it!

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Click to view Icon's User Page Icon (5)  Click to view Icon's User Profile Talk to Icon in the Shout! Box Feb 08, 2007 - 09:02 am
Just wandering you mention that you installed 64bit drivers under vista 64, question is how? Seeing that the 100.59 are not even signed and last i read you can NOT install any unsigned drivers under vista 64.

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Click to view DarkUltra's User Page DarkUltra (4)  Talk to DarkUltra in the Shout! Box Feb 08, 2007 - 05:39 am | Edited on Feb 08, 2007 - 05:52 am
» Cheesy interview and cheesy text
- Optimizing drivers for any new operating system is a key focus for a core team of software engineers here at NVIDIA. We focused first on implementing the major driver model architectural changes in Windows Vista without focusing solely on performance, and that’s why our initial drivers are slower on some applications compared to Windows XP. Now, we are making sure performance optimizations are at the top of our list.

OMG what a merketing monkey :D I hope performance is not on the top of their list at all, but stability/reliability is, followed by compatibility and then performance. Idiots. But that might be why Microsoft have had enough and moved most part of the display driver OUT of kernel space.


- We witnessed significant performance declines under HL2 Lost Coast for the GeForce 8800 GTX and 7900 GS running Vista; 8800 GTX performance is down over 40% when comparing both the 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems at 1600x1200, while the 7900 GS saw a drop of over half across the board.

I'd like to witness less repetision and more innsight and explenation. I already read the graphs. It seems the 7600GS are not optimized as much as the 7900GTX in vista 32 and 64 and XP 64 which i find strange since 7600GS and 7900GTX is same architecture just less engines, pipelines and performance.


Thanks for a good lineup of x64, vista and vista64 benchmarks though!

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Click to view GrapeApe's User Page GrapeApe (36)  Click to view GrapeApe's User Profile Talk to GrapeApe in the Shout! Box Feb 08, 2007 - 12:31 am | Edited on Feb 08, 2007 - 12:35 am
» The more things change...
Well despite people only blaiming M$ for this situation, which is at least a combination of nV and M$ (if it's only M$ wouldn't AMD have as much difficulty?), nVidia knew that this was coming and fully embraced vista in their marketing and sales practices so they do have commitments to deliver on.

In their press release http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_39189.html they state "NVIDIA is the only graphics company with four generations of GPUs and MCPs to be certified by Microsoft to be Windows Vista Premium Ready,..."

Which is to say they got the 'Vista Ready' certification, but weren't ready to get Vista WHQL certification for all 4 generations. Once they got that all important PR logo did the later really matter as much? 'Vista ready' is all that anyone is going to care about when looking for a card to buy, once they get it home and installed is another issue.

And obviously even nV cares about WHQL certification as the mention it later in their press release; "NVIDIA is currently providing Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) certified drivers for many of these products to Windows Vista PC manufacturers and directly to consumers" but of course don't draw attention to which parts (no mention of the 4 generations or DX10 at this point).


BTW, Brandon, why did the colour scheme change from the previous review? Nice easy to see blue/yellow scheme last time, not so much the blue/blue this time.

Also a follow-up with PurveVideo/AVIVO would be nice.

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