FiringSquad: Home of the Hardcore Gamer - Games, Hardware, Reviews and NewsSubmit your own or view users' CPU overclocking results!

  
 Home   News   THE MATRIX   Deals   Hardware   Games   Features   Media   Products   Forums   FS China 
AddThis Social Bookmark Button

Home : News
» Join the Greatest Gaming Community NOW! (It's free)

Already a member? Login
 




Tiger Woods Out...Until August!


Meditation of a Tyranid (0) by Aftermath
Never fallen (0) by froggz
Apple of your eye... (0) by SuperCharge
War! Huh! Yeah! (aka Blatant Plagiarism) (1) by ICDP
PC in a world of Crysis (3) by greennova
My eVGA ride (0) by devit
So what if it doesn't follow the topic? (0) by ICDP
See Green (4) by mikearmour
What is so cool about Gigabyte’s Ultra-Durable 3 technology (0) by SuperCharge
Bioshock: The Brutally Honest Review [Preliminary #2] (8) by Swatt

More Blogs >>


 
  News Article
Click here to submit news Click here for siteseeing articles
Posted by Brandon Sandman Bell on Tuesday April 17, 2007 - 06:00 AM

(Post a comment)

» NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS/GT Performance Preview

With today's introduction of the GeForce 8600 GTS, picking up a shiny new DX10 card has never been easier: the card sells for just $200. See how NVIDIA's latest mainstream GPU compares to previous DX9 cards from AMD and NVIDIA as well as the latest GeForce 8800 GTS card in today's article!

>> Click Here to read the article

Blog + Share: Digg Del.icio.us Reddit SU furl • More: AddThis Social Bookmark Button
Previous news article | Back to main news | Next news article


16 User Comment(s) • 8 root comment(s)
Page 1 of 2Next Page
Click to view deimos47's User Page deimos47 (434)  Click to view deimos47's User Profile Talk to deimos47 in the Shout! Box Apr 18, 2007 - 02:25 pm
Its somewhat expected people are disappointed by the bar graphs. Folks have been hyperventilating waiting for DX10 and Vista to come out for years now.

Just remember these are only the very first generation of DX10 cards.

» Login to reply to this


Click to view deimos47's User Page deimos47 (434)  Click to view deimos47's User Profile Talk to deimos47 in the Shout! Box Apr 18, 2007 - 01:57 pm
Re: comparing video cards from different generations (ie DX versions)

1. When 6600GT originally launched it also had a high price tag. It was certainly faster than FX5600. However, in many cases it was NOT faster than FX5900U. It was never meant to. It was value card. Likewise, 8600 supposed to be faster than 7600. Dont compare to last year's ultra-high end cards ie 7900's.
2. Why such high price tag? Why did GF3 cost a hell-lot-more than GF2 even though they had similar performance in old games. Because you're also paying for extra functionality. Perhaps you might get slightly higher performance with 7900 but a 7900 will never work in DX10 mode.
3. Cost. Similarly, you gotta realize hundreds of millions of transistors go into making DX10 happen. A TNT2 is just as good for Quake as a 8800GTX. But then again, you're hardly using any of the 8800GTX's features...
4. Game release timing: When R300 came out there were no DX9 games. There was no DX9. Heck, it wasn't until 2 years later when 6800 was already out when the first DX9 game, Far Cry, graced the store shelves.
With DX10 its a little different. Vista already has DX10. Some games that already shipped already have DX10 versions. Many DX10 games will ship within a few months.

» Login to reply to this


Click to view BigScooter's User Page BigScooter (409)  Click to view BigScooter's User Profile Talk to BigScooter in the Shout! Box Apr 17, 2007 - 08:40 pm
yea.. for the price, these cards really need to be about 20% faster. I am highly unimpressed. We can only hope that they are just trying to catch a few early adopters before dropping the price when Ati comes to play.

I am very disappointed... I expected them to perform a lot closer to what the 8800GTS 320mb does, if obviously somewhat worse. Guess it is time wait on ATI now, and hope they don't drop the ball.

» Login to reply to this


Click to view yacoub's User Page yacoub (7)  Talk to yacoub in the Shout! Box Apr 17, 2007 - 10:20 am | Edited on Apr 17, 2007 - 10:21 am
» The 8600GTS is garbage.
NVidia cut too many stream processors and too much bus bandwidth from it. 32SP and 128-bit bus doesn't cut it when you can spend $30 more to get an 8800GTS 320MB and get three times the SPs and bus bandwidth (96SP, 384-bit bus). The card is shameful. They neutered it too much and it shows that the last gen mid-range cards like the 7900GT and 7950GT can outperform it in most tests, often by significant margins.
The 8600GTS is worth no more than $175. At $250 you can spend $25-30 more to get an 8800GTS which unquestionably outperforms all of the last-gen cards. There's no reason not to do that.
NVidia just handed the mid-range initiative to ATi. Now we'll see if ATi is competent enough to take advantage of that and come out with a superior mid-range product. If they can't even after being given this gift of an opportunity, they're hopeless.

» Login to reply to this


Click to view Stories's User Page Stories (312)  Click to view Stories's User Profile Talk to Stories in the Shout! Box Apr 17, 2007 - 09:52 am | Edited on Apr 17, 2007 - 10:24 am
It depends on price. As long as the cards remain competitive in price and "consumer-level" features, that card will win out. How many computer systems do we see shipping with 8800 cards? So few. Heck, even 7900 or X1950 cards in sub-$2000 systems are rare.

We're in a minority here at FS. We'll be the ones gobbling up these cards, but few people will care outside of us.

On that note, I can't believe I held off on buying a videocard to see how the 8600 series performed.

» Login to reply to this
Click to view pir8hna's User Page pir8hna (177)  Talk to pir8hna in the Shout! Box Apr 17, 2007 - 10:53 am
I know what you mean, I'm so glad I didn't hold off for these. I was planning on waiting when the rumors of an 8600 ultra with 64sp and 512ram with a mid-march release were floating about, but once the 86ultra dropped out of the picture, and the release date was moved to mid april I jumped on a 7900GS. $70 cheaper than the GTS and better performance to boot, especially once overclocked, when it can outperform a stock 7950GT. These cards are a real disappointment from nvidia. I suspect the prices will drop rapidly as nobody in their right mind buys them, but the GTS would have to get down to about $150 to be worthwhile, since it probably won't even keep up in the first gen of DX-10 games, you have to buy it based on it's dx9 performance and it only compares to $150 parts, and doesn't even compare well to those if you increase res or AA since it's neutered with the 128 bit bus, is already clocked near it's limits. Bogus.

» Login to reply to this



Page 1 of 2Next Page
Previous news article | Back to main news | Next news article

POST A COMMENT

» Note: You need to be logged in to write a comment!

Login here, or if you don't have an account with FiringSquad, register here, it's FREE!

ATI Radeon 5970 Performance Preview
Click to read ATI Radeon 5970 Performance Preview
After a 10-month hiatus, ATI's once again got the world's fastest graphics card. The Radeon 5970 fuses two RV870 chips onto one board for max performa... [+] (Comments)
Left 4 Dead 2 PC Review
Click to read Left 4 Dead 2 PC Review
Valve says Left 4 Dead 2 contains so much new content, it's worthy of a sequel rather than DLC. Is this true or false? Judge for yourself in today's r... [+] (Comments)
Sapphire Radeon 5870 Vapor-X 1GB Review
Click to read Sapphire Radeon 5870 Vapor-X 1GB Review
With its custom vapor chamber cooling+heatpipes and factory OC'ing, Sapphire's 5870 Vapor-X is targeted towards gamers looking for a 5870 card with a ... [+] (Comments)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC Review
Click to read Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC Review
With no dedicated servers, no lean, and 18-player cap for multi, does Modern Warfare 2 for PC live up to its predecessors? Most of the reviews online ... [+] (Comments)
Phenom II Gets A New Revision: 125W AMD Phenom II X4 965 Performance Preview
Click to read Phenom II Gets A New Revision: 125W AMD Phenom II X4 965 Performance Preview
Promising lower power consumption, lower temps, and most importantly for enthusiasts, more OC'ing, AMD is back with a new CPU revision for the Phenom ... [+] (Comments)
Dragon Age Origins Review
Click to read Dragon Age Origins Review
While Jakub wasn't too impressed with Dragon Age Origins, Vand... [+] (Comments)
AMD Athlon II X3 435/Athlon II X2 240e Performance Preview
Click to read AMD Athlon II X3 435/Athlon II X2 240e Performance Preview
Today AMD is introducing 8 new Athlon II CPUs intended to service different segments of the budget CPU market. For HTPC users, new 45W dual, triple, a... [+] (Comments)
Shattered Horizon Review
Click to read Shattered Horizon Review
FutureMark, well known for their popular 3DMark benchmarks, is venturing into new territory with Shattered Horizon. This multiplayer shooter is perhap... [+] (Comments)
EVGA P55 FTW Review
Click to read EVGA P55 FTW Review
Looking for a good P55 motherboard to OC your CPU beyond 4GHz? If so, you may want to check out EVGA's P55 FTW. With its extra ATX12V connector, this ... [+] (Comments)
Borderlands PC Review
Click to read Borderlands PC Review
Is it an RPG or is it an FPS? Borderlands blends the best elements of both in one entertaining package. Vandy has spent the past week playing the PC v... [+] (Comments)
ATI Radeon HD 5770/5750 Performance Preview
Click to read ATI Radeon HD 5770/5750 Performance Preview
With prices ranging from $109-$159, ATI's Radeon 5700 series of cards bring DX11 gaming to mainstream price points and usher in new levels of energy e... [+] (Comments)
Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising Review
Click to read Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising Review
While it's not the true sequel to Operation Flashpoint, Dragon Rising is billed as a modern tactical sim just like its predecessor. Does it live up to... [+] (Comments)
Batman: Arkham Asylum PhysX Features and Performance
Click to read Batman: Arkham Asylum PhysX Features and Performance
One eye candy feature PC users can enjoy over the console edition of Batman: AA is PhysX. Rocksteady's PhysX implementation is more than just tearing ... [+] (Comments)
Batman: Arkham Asylum PC Review
Click to read Batman: Arkham Asylum PC Review
Already a smash hit on consoles, the PC version of Batman: Arkham Asylum sports better graphics and support for NVIDIA technologies PhysX and 3D Visio... [+] (Comments)
ATI Radeon 5850 Performance Preview
Click to read ATI Radeon 5850 Performance Preview
Not everyone's got $400 to spend on a shiny new Radeon 5870 card, which is why it can be argued that ATI's Radeon 5850 is the more relevant GPU for a ... [+] (Comments)
Resident Evil 5 PC Review
Click to read Resident Evil 5 PC Review
Sporting a new mercenaries mode with more enemies on screen, higher resolution DX10 graphics, and 3D Vision support, Resident Evil 5 is definitely bes... [+] (Comments)
More Hardware »More Games » | Interviews »


 
 Latest Headlines
Atari announces open beta dates for Star Trek Online (3)
Modern Warfare 2 PC outsells Call of Duty 4 (9)
Left 4 Dead 2 PC Review (6)
BioShock 2 special edition includes vinyl LP (11)
BioWare announces 1st DLC for Dragon Age Origins (3)
New Bad Company 2 trailer released (8)
JPR: PC gaming hardware market forecast to hit $27B next year (6)
Report says Activision has hired a 3rd dev team to make Call of Duty games (6)
Supreme Commander 2 coming this Spring (7)
ASUS releases first notebook to support 3D Vision (0)
Fermi spotted running Unigine's Heaven DX11 benchmark (1)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat benchmark released (0)
ATI Radeon 5970 Performance Preview (12)
NVIDIA posts new drivers (0)
Catalyst 9.11 released (0)
Today's News >>

 Hottest Topics
New Modern Warfare 2 PC petition created (33)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC Review (33)
ATI Radeon 5970 Performance Preview (12)
BioShock 2 special edition includes vinyl LP (11)
Activision hopes to monetize some aspects of CoD multi (11)
NPD: Wii, Unchartered 2 #1 in hardware, software sales (10)
First Fermi-based Tesla board announced (9)
Modern Warfare 2 PC outsells Call of Duty 4 (9)
New Bad Company 2 trailer released (8)
Steam weekend deal: Crysis for 50% off (8)
Craigslist flooded with modded Xbox 360s (8)
Supreme Commander 2 coming this Spring (7)
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 will support DirectX 11 (7)
JPR: PC gaming hardware market forecast to hit $27B next year (6)
Report says Activision has hired a 3rd dev team to make Call of Duty games (6)
Today's News >>

 Latest Siteseeing
ASUS Xtreme Design Contest (1)
PBS Frontline: The Warning - must watch (7)
Millionaire Teens Wanted (7)
What should Vandy review next? (10)
US Healthcare reform debacle in the making? (51)
Handy Guide for Deciding on a Gaming Platform (7)
From Star Trek to reality: researchers developing real warp drive (17)
Dom DeLuise Passes Away at 75 (5)
Deadpool Movie is a Go (9)
A Look Back.... (9)
More Siteseeing >>


 News Archive
This Month

October 1 - 31, 2009

September 1 - 30, 2009

August 1 - 31, 2009

July 1 - 31, 2009

June 1 - 30, 2009

May 1 - 31, 2009

April 1 - 30, 2009

March 1 - 31, 2009

February 1 - 28, 2009

January 1 - 31, 2009

December 1 - 31, 2008

November 1 - 30, 2008


 Latest Galleries
Random Gallery >> 
Click to view high-res Image!
Max Payne 3 June 2009 Screenshots [6] (5)

Random Gallery >> 
Click to view high-res Image!
Zeno Clash Review [32] (0)

Random Gallery >> 
Click to view high-res Image!
RAGE SIGGRAPH 2009 Screenshots [7] (0)

STALKER: Call of Pripyat DirectX 10 vs DirectX 11 Screenshots [10] (3)
Left 4 Dead 2 Dark Carnival Screenshots PAX 09 [6] (0)
RAGE SIGGRAPH 2009 Screenshots [7] (0)
Max Payne 3 June 2009 Screenshots [6] (5)
X-men Origins: Wolverine Review [33] (0)
Zeno Clash Review [32] (0)
NY Comic Con 2009 Pictures [103] (0)
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. Review [21] (0)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Review [45] (0)
F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin Review [20] (0)
Demigod Review [30] (0)
Midway Games Press Event Report Screenshots [48] (0)
GDC 2008 Pictures [48] (0)
Emotiv Pictures [3] (2)
3D Mark Vantage Screenshots [3] (3)
CES 2008 Pictures And Booth Model Gallery [115] (0)
Project Origin December 21 Screenshots [10] (0)
Star Trek Online Screenshot [1] (0)
Call of Duty 4 Review Screenshots [20] (0)
Frontlines: Fuel Of War Preview Screenshots [12] (0)

More Galleries >>


FiringSquad is powered by... Back to Top Site MapContact UsAdvertise With Us Privacy StatementAbout Us  
News RSSSiteseeing RSSArticle RSS   © 1998-2009 FS Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved