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| | (Post a comment) » Removed: FSAA Comparison: V5500/ GF2If you're looking for our first FSAA comparison article, we've decided to yank it from the site. After a good deal of internal discussion today, we decided on this course of action because the protocols used in the first article were not the best possible way to base a comparison. As mentioned before, we're working on a new comparison test involving two identically configured machines, sitting side by side.
FSAA is a very complex topic, and it's certainly a feature that cannot be characterized, measured, or compared by any traditional means. Because of that, we're going to handle the new article with even more care and attention than anything we've ever done before. FiringSquad is committed to providing the highest quality content. We're not going to be satisfied with anything less than our best possible effort. |  Previous news article | Back to main news | Next news article  |
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Anonymous at 01:43am 05/6/2000
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I think the Geforce GTS is really gonna rock with it's features.
It's just one step closer to 3DStudio-quality graphics.
with that nifty perpixelshading thingy built in you can realy do
very coolstuff.
when you look at it's features it's a doubleGeforce+G400+3dfx with
t-buffer.
kinda cool i think.
And you still can run 3dStudio MAX or MAYA with accelerated OpenGL
with it.
GO FOR THE GEFORCE and you will have it all!....
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Anonymous at 11:44pm 05/5/2000
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yah #123 I second that,good point, it seems as if they are very
close and this should be said in the article, mabee they could fill
out a paper with rateing's from 1-10 on image quality, so we would
get too see how close or how far apart the scores really are. It
would make for some nice graphs too :). I would like too see how the
intermediate levels say the one closest to 2x FSAA (1.5 x
supersampling) in the nvidia driver compares to 3dfx's 2x FSAA I
think it should be included in the image quality test, since the
proformance of nvidias 4x FSAA is often compared to 3dfx's 2x FSAA.
A 2x FSAA comparison and a 4x comparison would be cool. Like each
person would give 4 different pictures/demos a grade percentage /10
whatever, the 4 different pictures would be 2x 3dfx, 4x 3dfx, double
supersampling, and 1.5 supersampling. Should be a cool article keep
up the good work guys. Your site rocks.
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#124
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Anonymous at 09:32pm 05/5/2000
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About the comparison...
This site always sends reviews about the 3dfx power and good
products and advantages of voodoox chips...
I always like thresh but...
I think we can suppose firingsquad a branch of 3dfx which collects
more fans of 3dfx and helps selling more cards!
You all know much about the nVIDIA's quality.
3dfx based cards are something like MCC and it can not be clocked
much more than 166 or maybe 200. This scalable architecture isn't
much impressive, you'll see.
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Anonymous at 08:01pm 05/5/2000
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on GF2 vs V5 FSAA...
Quick observation: If one or the other was clearly much better, we
would not be having all these arguments about the FSAA quality.
I had a hard time finding differences (if any) between the various
screens. Although Q3A shots aren't the best for this, but they do
show both cards eliminating jaggies very nicely.
As long as both cards produce unflawed (no artifacts, etc)
anti-aliased images, I won't care which card is being used.
about the FS Pepsi Challenge...
In addition to deciding which one looks better, please ask the
guinea pigs HOW MUCH better it looks, or HOW DIFFICULT it was to
decide.
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Anonymous at 05:50pm 05/5/2000
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Yes, the dude who said that jaggies look better should pass the
crack pipe around, because stuff that good should be shared.
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Mahram at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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>Quake 3 also looks better on a >GeForce 2 GTS when not using
FSAA >than a Voodoo 5 does when it is >using FSAA and the
GeForce 2 GTS >gives more FPS. Real gamers would >rather have
more FPS than using >FSAA anyways.
Give me some of what you're smoking because it must be real good
stuff. Real gamers? Since when are entire genres outside of FPS
not real games? An aliased image looks better than a non-aliased
image?
What I can't understand is why people are ignoring the fact that the
5500 has such great performance even though it is older technology.
We have all seen what driver updates can do for performance, and
this is a fact that everyone here has seen on this site and other
sites as well.
As to visual quality, that's a subjective thing and to each his or
her own. If you think, however, that an aliased image is better
looking than a non-aliased image, I've got a bridge to sell in
Brooklyn. There is no way that an image with visual artifacts looks
better than one without. To me, the picture difference in the color
department isn't noticeable at all. The FSAA, however, is very hard
to tell due to the darkness, but 3dfx's 4x seems to take the crown
there.
Anyhow---why split hairs? Just buy what you want to buy, and in the
end everyone will end up happy.
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PsykoAGQx at 06:48pm 04/21/2004
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<quote>
And for those who say that the GForce 2 drivers are not
muture, please. seeing how Nvidia are using the same drivers for
both cards and the GForce is been out for a year, enough said.
And another thing, which is better? A p3 600 or dual P3 600's?
hmmm. Thats a tough one, not.
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First of all, WRONG, Geforce and GeForce2 use DIFFERENT drivers, as
does the TNT, TNT2, GeForce, and all different Nvidia cards.
Basically, by DLing a driver, you download the drivers for all those
cards in one package, but each uses different drivers. If you don't
believe me, all evidence points to my argument. See Tom's Hardware
Guide for more info
Second, your analogy is misleading. It's more between a P3 800 and
a Dual P3 450. Which one's faster? Who knows?
Also, you claim that NVidia freaks are hiding behind the fact that
the drivers are beta. At least that's a viable reason. Drivers can
improve greatly, BUT silicon improvement is unlikely in the short
time between now and when it will come out. V5's may be clocked
faster, but don't expect much improvement.
-Psyko
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Anonymous at 11:27am 05/5/2000
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if you want quality you can allways buy a matrox G400 MAX .
It is the best in quality, better than Geforce or 3DFX .
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Anonymous at 07:31am 05/5/2000
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Hi, FS guys!
We are all anxious to see your updated report!!!
Good luck and please hurry up :)
Tnx,
Stan
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Anonymous at 07:10am 05/5/2000
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The GeForce 2 GTS is crippled because of the memory bandwidth.
However, on every benchmark I have seen the GeForce 2 GTS beets the
V5 5500 at every resolution (although not much at the higher
resolutions).
I agree with you when you said owners of the GeForce DDR should not
upgrade. However, depending on your situation an owner of a GeForce
SDR might want to. I will be happy with my TNT2 Ultra until this
fall.
Clearly we need a different memory type for video cards to progress
much further.
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