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| | (Post a comment) » Removed: FSAA Comparison: V5500/ GF2If you're looking for our first FSAA comparison article, we've decided to yank it from the site. After a good deal of internal discussion today, we decided on this course of action because the protocols used in the first article were not the best possible way to base a comparison. As mentioned before, we're working on a new comparison test involving two identically configured machines, sitting side by side.
FSAA is a very complex topic, and it's certainly a feature that cannot be characterized, measured, or compared by any traditional means. Because of that, we're going to handle the new article with even more care and attention than anything we've ever done before. FiringSquad is committed to providing the highest quality content. We're not going to be satisfied with anything less than our best possible effort. |  Previous news article | Back to main news | Next news article  |
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Yoshi (View my Profile) at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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I hope that the next time the tests are ran that there are new
drivers for the V5. It seems to be pretty good from the specs and I
can't see why doesn't run faster.
Oh for the best pictures I have seen of why FSAA is a good thing go
to www.planetstarsiege.com With FSAA turned on the pictures look
like they where taken from Tribes 2.
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thebrainisdead at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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I can't think of a single site that would do what firingsquad is
doing (maybe I don't visit enough sites =). It think it shows a lot
when a site is willing to admit their wrong and fix it. This is why
I come here! I hope you guys listen to some more of the testing
ideas people have posted because there's a lot of good suggestions
amidst the flames.
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Anonymous at 06:01pm 05/3/2000
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IT DOSEN"T MATTER IF IT IS A BETA BOARD. LOL -The frame rate
difference between the GF2 and V5 in the lower to mid settings are
too huge to be closed just by slapping a retail sign on the V5.
Bottom line is that one boards drivers are beta and the other's are
very young. Even with the driver revisions for the V5, it's not like
Nvidia is going to set back and not revise theirs.
The speed Crown has been passed.
Here's quote I got from extremehw.com that I like.
[3dfx] Built their reputation by steam rolling the competition with
excessive levels of 3D power, and now are trying to change their
tune a bit. This time around 3dfx is promoting T-Buffer and FSAA
rather than just stomping the competition with pure speed. It would
be like Porsche starting to advertise that their cars are safer than
Volvo and 3dfx fans are demonstrating the same reaction as car
buyers would at the same news.
Remember the rhetoric about 32bit being to slow; thus the voodoo3
line. What a about face
SIDE NOTE:
And another thing can't people make mistakes. They owned up to the
fact that their tests were flawed, and they are now going to do
another. Such passion!
Dman, you get the nails and I get the cross and lets do this.
EASE UP!!
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GX-WarSpite at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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Again, I'd like to repeat that the GeForce and GF2 *cannot* do
Direct3D FSAA at the moment. Starlancer is Direct3D. Need For
Speed is D3D, as are Microsoft Flight Simulator, Janes WW2 Fighters,
Falcon 4.0, etc. Just about every non-Quake engine based game out
there is done in D3D.
If the GeForce2 was capable of doing FSAA in Direct3D at the moment,
we would gladly test those.
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SilverWerewolf (View my Profile) at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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Name calling will get you nowhere fast. Stop it people!
Anyway, FSAA is eye candy. Whether one is beter than the other is
irrelevant. I own a GeForce (ASUS V6600), and it looks good to me.
And I don't run FSAA. I'm still looking for ways to make AGP 2X
active ... ;-)
When I change CPU to and Athlon 750 (overclocked on an KA7), then I
might consider FSAA...
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Anonymous at 05:43pm 05/3/2000
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Please don't be supid and test anti aliasing on q3. No one cares
about how smooth things look when we just want to run that !%$# at
100,000 frames a sec. Do it on a nice game like Starlancer or
something where framerate is not #1 issue.
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Anonymous at 05:42pm 05/3/2000
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#40 and 43 is right. Why get another vid card if it doesn't seem
much faster? I'll be sticking with my old V3 for awhile. I'm tired
of hearing which company is better in vid cards and processors.
Cheesedog
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Anonymous at 05:16pm 05/3/2000
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OK.. here's my suggestion to the FS guys for a way to do a
equitable
test:
Build two identical systems.
Spend some time getting the monitors set the same. (look at
images,
desktops, etc)
Get a Q3A server set up (or UT, or whatever) and start a level.
Have a THIRD person join, to be the "driver" of the
view.
then have the two test systems connect and using spectator mode,
have their POV looking out the "driver's" POV.
Have the "driver" tour the level, looking at various
edges, lines, etc.
There, now you have an identical view, both in position AND time,
on the two different systems. This would be the most fair way to
do it.
Of course, it will only work for games that have a multiplayer
mode,
with a "spectator" type feature..
YoMAMA!!!
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Anonymous at 05:04pm 05/3/2000
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3dfx used to be good. (When the Voodoo 2 was king of the hill) But
then they did jack to improve their cards. The Banshee (which I own)
is crap. Then came Voodoo 3 which was a bit better then the Banshee
but still it was crap. Now the Voodoo's 4 and 5 will be crap too.
Maybe the 6000 model will be good but they can shove that $599 price
up my a**.
I am sad to say that Nvidia is KING............................
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Yoshi (View my Profile) at 04:22pm 07/11/2002
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I think that this battle should be redone a couple of months after
both cards are out on the market. The Nivida drivers are better but
that dosn't mean that in the long run it will be a better card. The
Voodoo 5 might pull a huge improvment with new drives. Though I need
a card now and I know that the GeForce 2 won't be a bad card so for
the first time in my 3d life I am buying a non-3dfx product.
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