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Posted by John JCal Callaham on Thursday August 16, 2007 - 07:54 AM

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» Microsoft: No Biggie On DirectX10.1

A few days ago we reported that an upcoming update to DirectX in version 10.1 would not let the new features work on current PC graphics hardware. Now Next Generation is reporting that a Microsoft rep is downplaying the issue:

Microsoft's Sam Glassenberg told Next-Gen in a phone interview, "DX10.1 fully supports DX10 hardware. No hardware support is being removed....It's strictly a superset. It's basically an update to DX10 that extends the hardware functionality slightly."

He said that the update is similar to what Microsoft did with DX9. "We did make updates to [DX9] that extended the supported feature set. "All the hardware is still supported, all the games still run, all the features are still there, we've just simply extended the feature set and the lifetime of the API," he said.

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Click to view Sadan01's User Page Sadan01 (139)  Talk to Sadan01 in the Shout! Box Aug 16, 2007 - 05:19 pm
Quote: "He said that the update is similar to what Microsoft did with DX9. "We did make updates to [DX9] that extended the supported feature set. "All the hardware is still supported, all the games still run, all the features are still there, we've just simply extended the feature set and the lifetime of the API," he said."

Hmm. So the difference between DirectX 9.0 and 9.0c are? Let me think... Pixel Shader 2.0 for DX9.0 and Pixel Shader 3.0 for DX9.0c. In other words, NEW HARDWARE to take advantage of the new pixel shader version.

I don't believe the BS Microsoft says anyway so I call this bullshit until proven otherwise - i.e. DirectX 10.1 is released.

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Click to view larsig's User Page larsig (780)  Talk to larsig in the Shout! Box Aug 17, 2007 - 02:11 am
He is addressing the unfounded fears that have been running rampant that current dx10 cards would not work with dx10.1 at all. It's obvious that adding features with 10.1 would require changes to hardware, which means new hardware to take advantage of new features. Otherwise there would be no reason to release 10.1 if what they were adding just required manipulating current hardware capabilities.

In other words, he isn't claiming that new hardware isn't needed to use new features. He's just making it clear that old features will still work as expected on old hardware.

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Click to view northreign's User Page northreign (84)  Talk to northreign in the Shout! Box Aug 16, 2007 - 11:03 am
Maybe the silly people still won't believe it and continue to go with the silly rants.

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 Anonymous (-) Aug 16, 2007 - 11:52 am
or maybe the gullible will swallow anything M$ says.

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Click to view northreign's User Page northreign (84)  Talk to northreign in the Shout! Box Aug 16, 2007 - 01:34 pm
One. Two?

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Click to view Labotomizer's User Page Labotomizer (1077)  Talk to Labotomizer in the Shout! Box Aug 16, 2007 - 12:47 pm
You're right, we have no reason to believe them. I mean, what the guy is saying about DX9 is total BS right? DirectX 9c made it so any card that didn't support 9c would no longer work with DirectX at all. You had to go buy new hardware immediately because that was part of the plan...

At any rate, put down the tin foil hat and step away from the crack pipe. They changed from letters to .# format is all, big deal...

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Click to view Labotomizer's User Page Labotomizer (1077)  Click to view Labotomizer's User Profile Talk to Labotomizer in the Shout! Box Aug 18, 2007 - 10:47 am
hehe In case you missed it I was being sarcastic about the guy above freaking over MS screwing everyone over.

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Click to view subtlesnake's User Page subtlesnake (10)  Talk to subtlesnake in the Shout! Box Aug 18, 2007 - 07:25 am
No, not at all. Games only starting dropping DirectX 9.0b support recently. Remember ATI's Xxxx series didn't support DirectX 9.0c.

And the move from SM2 to SM3 was pretty big. DirectX 10.1 looks more like the move from DirectX 9.0a to DirectX 9.0b, which had no effect on owners of existing hardware.

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Click to view trex1993's User Page trex1993 (1)  Talk to trex1993 in the Shout! Box Aug 17, 2007 - 10:25 am
Ummm...exaggerate much? My girlfriend's PC has some archaic Radeon 9200 series video card (DX 8.1 compatible), yet can still play Direct X games just fine with 9.0c installed. Yes, the DX 9 features are AWOL, but just because you installed DirectX 9c by NO means results in "any card that didn't support 9c would no longer work with DirectX at all".

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Click to view northreign's User Page northreign (84)  Talk to northreign in the Shout! Box Aug 16, 2007 - 07:13 pm
My bad... Its the end of computer gaming. Oh no's!

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Click to view shl0791's User PageI am an AMD Agent shl0791 (547)  Talk to shl0791 in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Aug 16, 2007 - 12:46 pm
no no, that's "maybe the gullible will swallow anything $ony says"

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