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Stories (315)    Oct 12, 2007 - 01:43 pm

HD-DVD camp is crippled by a the poor line of Toshiba A1, A2, and (future) A3 players. You need to step up to more featured and better PQ/AQ players of the A10, A20 for comparability to the BD players. Why would Toshiba make a HD-DVD player without 1080p output? That just befuddles me. » Login to reply to this

Eclipse (436)    Oct 12, 2007 - 01:11 pm

Not everyone who wants an HD movie player wants a game console, and vice versa. How cheap would the PS3 be without the BR drive? $300? $200? They'd be winning the console "war" hands down if the were that cheap. » Login to reply to this  BloodBlight (5)   Oct 12, 2007 - 01:54 pm That is a bogus statement. The PS3 NEEDS storage space, and a DVD just doesn't cut it at 8.7GB. What else is it going to use? HD-DVD? The format that is basically run by the competing Microsoft system? That would be a dumb move to say the least. So they where left with two options. One, try to keep using the now dated DVD format and restrict the development of their games. OR Two, build a whole new tech and at least try to take the market for the next decade. Why NOT start it on a data platform. If you are going to loose a bunch of money on your initial investment, why not loose it in a division that at least has the possibility to make some of that money back. And ya, I know I said I wasn't going to post. :) » Login to reply to this  BloodBlight (5)   Oct 16, 2007 - 04:33 pm Ok, for the three movie thing, sorry, missed that. As for the number of titles, I was using target as an example, but it seems to be fairly consistent where ever I go. And I shop a lot. ^__^ I think you miss understood my color comment, but I have been known to be overly picky. I actually use a color calibration tool for my screens. SO... However! I just lost any respect I had for you. You have no CLUE how much space a game takes and are talking out your a$$! Here is a list of disk space requirements for a few games: 12.83 GBs == CSI hard evidence 7.05 GBs == project gotham racing 4 6.78 GBs == Thrillville Off The Rails 6.76 GBs == Looney Tunes Acme Arsenal 6.35 GBs == Half Life 2 The Orange Box 6.33 GBs == Tony Hawks Proving Ground 6.08 GBs == Crash Of The Titans 6.08 GBs == FIFA 08 Now you will note that each of these (all picked form the top of the list form our favorite site) is over the 4.7GB mark. Now that means the more expensive dual layer tech right off the bat (CSI even needing two disks), and not much room for growth. And any designer that doesn't leave room, well.. I guess it's a good thing everyone got the version with the extra large HD, right???? My god man! Do you thing we can live on CDs forever?!?! ^___^ But seriously, having 25GBs of space could have some real advantageous. Not having to worry about disk space is one less thing the game developers will have to spend time on. Know what I mean? Any anyhow, I don't case about the PS3 or the 360, I am a PC gamer, and will probably always be one. For everyones reference, the 360 has sold 11.6 Million units (as of June) and the PS3 has sold 5.5 Million. And although the PS3 is loosing the console war (no argument there), it does mean that there are an EXTRA 5.5 million players. One last thing, your numbers are a bit off on Netflix, but not by too much. JUST IN THE WRONG DIRECTION! In August Netflix displayed information requests for 31,271 BR disks, and only 16,921 HD disks! Granted, that is not rental numbers, but it shows a pattern of interest and should translate well. Ug, if all you people are going to do is spout crap from your nether regions, well, please visit the zoo, there are plenty of other primates you can share space with. » Login to reply to this  x4 Critical (396)   Oct 12, 2007 - 05:49 pm | Edited on Oct 12, 2007 - 05:51 pm BloodBlight: First, I mentioned it was 3 blu-ray pron movies, not 3 blu-ray movies in general. I own 18 Blu-Ray movies, so I do know the difference. Second, months ago Target threw their support at Blu-Ray and have expressed repeatedly their Blu-Ray section will be bigger the their HD-DVD. If you look at something less biased, Netflix sends out nearly 2.5 HD-DVD movies to every 1 Blu-Ray. Says something there. Also in your first post you talk about codecs not being as good in the cheaper HD-DVD player, codecs are not hardware based but software and currently both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are primarily using VC1 so you have the same transfers. You may be talking about decoders but even then I have never seen bleeding on HD-DVD when comparing the two formats, and this was from the cheap 360 drive. The PS3 doesn't need the storage space anymore then the 360 does. The only reason Blu-Ray is in the PS3 is to force consumers to adopt their hi-def technology. If they win the format war, that is where the big bucks come from. And clearly it was the wrong choice since PS3 sales have been so far down in the crapper they had to do two price drops and phase out two of their configurations in the first year. They had two options, and what they did was force gamers to buy not only a game machine, but a hi-def player as well. Getting back to the stoarge, first of all, not a single 360 game that I am aware of uses more then 1 disk, which includes huge games like Oblivion. Second, as we have seen in the past, it is quite easy to throw a second disk in there if absolutely needed. » Login to reply to this

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Eclipse (436)    Oct 12, 2007 - 01:04 pm

» Reading comprehension FTW! He said there were 3 BR PR0N movies. I'm pretty sure they don't cater to that crowd at Target... » Login to reply to this  BloodBlight (5)   Oct 16, 2007 - 03:55 pm Yes, missed that bit. :) » Login to reply to this

Blundaar (226)   Oct 12, 2007 - 12:18 pm

Were they both top-of-the-line players? You know as well as I that not all players (from a chip-set / hardware standpoint) are created equal. Without more specifics, your argument is without merit. » Login to reply to this  BloodBlight (5)   Oct 16, 2007 - 03:56 pm Both where Toshiba's I believe, it was a while ago, the HD was like $500 at the time and the BR was of course like $800. » Login to reply to this

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Yoshi (2319)    Oct 11, 2007 - 03:28 pm

$300 is a lot for a HD-DVD player even now. On Amazon you can find them as low as $227.12 at that price as I have said before it's easy to replace a DVD player that is broken with an HD-DVD player without the wife wanting to kill you. Link: http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-......92141552&sr=1-1 » Login to reply to this  Stories (315)   Oct 12, 2007 - 01:41 pm The outdated and feature-less A2 which doesn't even have the capability to output 1080p signals. Right on. You need to step up to the much more expensive $399 A20 to get 1080p playback. At which case, you're at the same price as a BD player. The A2 (or the A1 and probably the A3) are a poor purchasing decision. The war is on and will be for a long time. Both formats are stuck in neutral. Both have ardent supporters. Buy a format (or both) and use it. » Login to reply to this  Yoshi (2319)   Oct 11, 2007 - 03:32 pm For those who are wondering least expensive Blu-Ray player I could find on Amazon had a list price of $424.99 I think this shows why HD-DVD will win the format war pretty much. Oh yeah don't forget the porn industry is backing HD-DVD over Blu-Ray... Link: http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aq......2141811&sr=1-12 » Login to reply to this  Blundaar (226)   Oct 12, 2007 - 06:35 am Although not as important as in the past, true- one still can't ignore the 800lb gorilla with the strap-on and spiked heels. » Login to reply to this  x4 Critical (396)   Oct 11, 2007 - 03:53 pm The porn industry will have little sway in this format war, unlike the betamax vs. VHS war. There is simply too much downloadable content to be a huge impact on this format war. Hidefdigest recently had an article about the slow adoption by the porn industry and to date, HD-DVD only has 16 titles released (Blu-Ray has 3). It is simply not a valid argument anymore. Legionosh has valid comments, particularly about the standardization of hardware, which was one of the bigger issues with the movie industry when they were deciding which format to support. If Sony had their act together in the beginning, this very well could be a different story. I do own a PS3 and enjoy my collection of Blu-Ray movies, but I am still severely disappointed in the movies I am unable to watch because they are on HD-DVD. I may just drop the $150 for the HD-DVD drive for my 360, but it is still not an ideal situation. » Login to reply to this

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breakspirit (410)   Oct 11, 2007 - 11:40 am

Please take at least one English class at some point in your life. » Login to reply to this  Fr0stBite (1137)    Oct 11, 2007 - 03:20 pm ZING! » Login to reply to this

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