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deimos47 (434) Dec 10, 2007 - 12:30 am | Edited on Dec 10, 2007 - 12:36 am
| True that. Both are good cards with odd pricing and availability issues.
But, looking at it in reverse, if the 256MB launched first and you were reviewing the 512MB just now, based on 512MB's significant higher performance with AA, not to mention recovery from near zero numbers and all for as you said $20 more, you'd have to give it a score of like 126%.
So I guess its my fault for not realizing the range of the scale was expanded to 120%+ territory.
EDIT: COD4 uses 400MB+ yet performance doesnt tank with AA. Odd..
www.yougamers.com\articles\13801_video_ram_-_how_much_do_you_really_need-page7\» Login to reply to this  GX-Brandon (369) Dec 10, 2007 - 07:28 am
| Well, my texture quality in CoD 4 is set to "high" instead of "extra". Everything else is cranked up to highest settings. That would account for some of the difference.
Looks like based on the date of that article he would have been using the demo, and therefore using FRAPS runs, which can't be repeated 100% and thus you get lots of variability from run to run.
I'm not knocking the method, as obviously I use FRAPS to test CoD 4 too.» Login to reply to this DanTheMathlete (235) Dec 10, 2007 - 10:42 am
| » Method to the Madness a*AvgMaxFps - b*Price + c*Author = CardRating,
where a,b & c are scalar values you determine and disclose.
These values would weight how important you feel each category is. Compute the average fps on a game at a particular resolution, subtract the cost (this way $1,000 cards do not automatically win the contest just because they perform really well) and add the authors opinion (which can be a negative number if they don't like the card). Take the average of all games at the same resolution and divide by your highest scored value for any card to that date. Then you will have a scaled number which is more meaningful than a percentage and you can still editorialize your opinion about the card. obviously this is just a simple linear function and you could do more complicated equations, for example exponentially increase decrease any or all of the values or use a logistic function. You could form a Gaussian distribution and scale all your values by that, whatever floats your boat.» Login to reply to this |

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Crypt (1) Dec 08, 2007 - 09:16 pm
| Why does the 8800GT 256MB bottom out to 3-5fps when the 3850 256MB does not?
The 90% does seem rather sketchy, considering how close the cost is to the 512MB 8800GT and 3870.» Login to reply to this |

deimos47 (434) Dec 08, 2007 - 12:40 am
| In general I find firingsquad reviews to be objective and fair. My eyes must be blurry from all that Crysis brine.
I don't quite see how a video card that tank to 4-5fps range in multiple titles can get an astounding 90%. Thats almost like calling Phenom's L3 bug a "feature" and giving it bonus marks for it.
Ignoring the odd win the 3850 had over the GT in Crysis at 16x12, and cases where they are tied like in Bioshock, on average the GT/GT XXX are about 20% faster. Hardly "outclassing", when you consider the GT's higher price, and AMD's upcoming price drop.
And judging from what what happened with its 512MB brother, the 256MB prices will rise in no time, and they'll all be out of stock before the weekend is over.
I guess we all took a lesson from the gamespot kane&lynch incident ;)» Login to reply to this 
Martimus (158) Dec 08, 2007 - 07:18 am
| | The HD 3850 destroyed the 8800 GT in Oblivion as well. (Which is my current addiction, darn that oblivicrack!) » Login to reply to this 
deimos47 (434) Dec 08, 2007 - 11:45 am | Edited on Dec 08, 2007 - 11:48 am
| Well, I was ingnoring the 4fps in Oblivion cases. But, rather than comparing to lowly HD 3850, notice how far behind the 256MB is behind the 512MB with AA: 70 vs 55 in FEAR, 110.7 vs 87.7 in COH, 55.2 vs 28.4 in Oblivion, 37 vs 25 in WIC, 81.7 vs 64 in HL2, and 28.6 vs 19.3 in LostP... no point of even thinking about AA in Bioshock and Crysis with your 256MB GT. So for $30-40 more the 512MB GT is 25%, 25%, 94%, 48%, 28%, and 48% faster with AA (once again ignoring those dysmal drops to 0-4fps range in Bioshock and Crysis -games apparently too unpopular and too modern to sway the review's score).
Hey, I'm just saying if I want something a tad cheaper than Double bacon cheeseburger and get a plain cheeseburger, I'm not going to be 90% satisfied.» Login to reply to this |

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