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Soldier36 (639)    Jan 25, 2008 - 05:24 pm | Edited on Jan 25, 2008 - 05:26 pm

My thoughts exactly! LOL. Morons with money to waste on garbage Sims crap! Same category as a Wii Console! » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)   Jan 25, 2008 - 06:46 pm There's so many discrepencies in your posts here. Are you bipolar or just a habitual liar? One minute you have a rig to run everything maxxed on Crysis, the next day you don't, and then again today you do. And the silly comment about the Wii... Comparing the Wii to Sims is like saying Second Life is just like World of Warcraft. The Wii is a gaming console. You know, games are all about fun and the Wii is top-notch in that arena. Then again, several of it's games sold more in a month than the top PC Games did all year. Starting to see the picture? I guess you can hope that nVidia shares some of the massive amounts of cash it charges for its top end cards with developers because that's the only way you'll be keeping big budget games as PC Exclusives. » Login to reply to this

raj (230)     Jan 24, 2008 - 10:54 pm

Ssshhh "they" are among us... » Login to reply to this

soydeedo (157)    Jan 24, 2008 - 10:48 pm

The people with money apparently. Or whiney children. » Login to reply to this

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TwitchyTomato (6)   Jan 24, 2008 - 04:48 pm

Maybe this has been answered elsewhere, but do these numbers include each account renewal as a "sale"? It's hard for me to believe there are still that many people out there who haven't played this game yet. » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)   Jan 25, 2008 - 09:05 am No, there'd be far more in that case. However it does include all the gold farmers that are constantly banned and rebuying new copies of the game to continue their farming operations. » Login to reply to this  demongamesuk (85)   Jan 24, 2008 - 06:57 pm I am thinking it just takes into account how many copies of the boxed game have been sold... oh and there are now 10 Million on WoW apparently, so it shouldn't be too hard to believe that there are still people out there that haven't played it yet! I hear that EVE on-line has 12 Million (but as with WoW those numbers may or may not include inactive accounts!). » Login to reply to this

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DaBlow (21)   Jan 24, 2008 - 05:33 pm

Bah I am not too worried about that. Even if all the current PC developers would stop releasing stuff on the PC, a bunch of garage based companies will once again surface and start releasing games for a reasonable price, just like the good old days. Remember with PC, you get a huge install base and no royalty fees :D So for a startup, it's the obvious path to take. » Login to reply to this  Stories (312)   Jan 24, 2008 - 09:37 pm Okay, then big budget titles are on the way out. How many sales do these huge AAA titles need to sell to break even? 300,000? I was hearing somewhere in the 400-500,000 range for PS3/X360 games, I wouldn't imagine PC being much different. At some point, the 100+ person development teams necessary for big budget PC games will no longer be economically feasible. The days of shareware and small 4-5 person teams will be the norm. With those games, 8800GTS graphics cards will be unnecessary, really. » Login to reply to this

Stories (312)    Jan 24, 2008 - 03:28 pm

That's less than the PS3 version... I think PC gaming is on the way out. :-( » Login to reply to this  Soldier36 (639)   Jan 25, 2008 - 05:23 pm What a asshat, Some of us like the exclusivity of being a high end PC gamer and do spend thousands on their systems to play these games. Its what makes it worthwhile. If everyone could play Crysis on all high settings, PC Gaming wouldnt be what it is, exclusive in its own right. I wouldnt wipe my own arse with with a console, too many jaggies in the games that would cut me, ROFL! » Login to reply to this  Willow (142)    Jan 24, 2008 - 03:38 pm Ya this hasn't been stated at least weekly for the past 10 years. » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)    Jan 25, 2008 - 09:01 am To SF: I don't feel my statement was idiotic in any way, shape or form. A $900 rig WILL NOT run Crysis with all high settings at an acceptable frame rate. Perhaps the devs have shown that it can but it's funny that NO OTHER REVIEWER OR GAMER HAS CONFIRMED THIS. I suppose you think that the dev is somehow above other companies and wouldn't skew the numbers and tweak things in ways that we couldn't possibly accomplish to show better benchmarks than real world would show. I know on an 8800GTS with an E6600 and 4GB of memory it can't run with all settings at high and see anyting more than about 14-15 FPS. Yes, Crysis does seem smoother at those lower frames than you would see in any other game, I'll admit that, but I still don't find it playable. A game isn't playable until about 25-30 fps at a minumum. Judging from benchmarks with a triple SLI 8800 Ultra rig that's about what you need to have everything on high and maybe, MAYBE play at an acceptable frame rate. That's $2k in video acceleration alone, not counting everything else you need to make that run properly. Also, do you think investors will continue to support a game that's a PC exclusive when they have the option of supporting the same or similar game cross-platform, or even console exclusive, and make FAR more money? Bottom line is cash is what drives the investors and the investors drive the developers. If Crysis had been released for 360 it probably would have topped 1 million copies easily, perhaps more. If anything you're the one making the idiotic statements, which seems out of character, by living in denial that big budget PC exclusives will be a thing of the past. I'm fine with cross platform myself simply because I prefer gaming on my PC to the consoles. » Login to reply to this  SFtheWolf (571)   Jan 24, 2008 - 06:52 pm Responding to "Labotomizer": It's popular yet idiotic statements like those that are causing PC gaming to suffer, namely the "fact" you need a 5k rig to run Crysis (the devs themselves have shown it runs on all high settings on a $900 system), and the "fact" that developing for the 360 is similar or results in a similar product. » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)    Jan 24, 2008 - 04:04 pm Perhaps it should be clarified then... PC Exclusive gaming is on it's way out. When games like Crysis come out that require a $5k rig to run at decent settings and maintain playability there's a serious problem with the route PC makers are taking. Cross platform isn't bad since 360 development shouldn't be too much different from PC which makes ports easier. I really don't see how a company can justify making games for the PC only at this point, the console sales on a good game will blow PC right out of the water as this proves. And every year it's getting worse and worse for PC. » Login to reply to this

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