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Posted by Chris Crazipper Angelini on Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 09:00 PM

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» Phenom Goes Triple-Core: AMD's Phenom X3 Processors

AMD is all about choice these days and now it’s giving mainstream users the choice between dual-, triple-, and quad-core processors. Is there room for the odd configuration or are you best served by a more conventional CPU?

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Click to view cordas's User Page cordas (14)  Talk to cordas in the Shout! Box Apr 25, 2008 - 06:47 am
» Whats with using a 8800GT for CPU testing?
Yeah I know the 8800GT is a cracking card and great value for money... but surely when you are testing CPU performance its worse than usless as at the higher screen res we all run nowadays the games are utterly GPU locked.

OK games such as Crysis are gonna kill a 9800GTX2 but still it is going to give the CPUs more room to impress...

Also why are you still doing tests at 640x480? Why not drop that and go for a wide screen res such as 1680x1050... a res many people now game at?

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Click to view crazipper's User Page crazipper (2)  Talk to crazipper in the Shout! Box Apr 26, 2008 - 07:40 pm
The purpose of 640x480 is to better isolate processor performance. Naturally, most gamers play at higher resolutions, so we include 12x10 and 16x12 as well. By the time you get to 16x12, most games demonstrate a graphics bottleneck. Anything higher than that and you can count on being GPU-limited.

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Click to view cordas's User Page cordas (14)  Talk to cordas in the Shout! Box Apr 29, 2008 - 06:43 am
Yeah I get that, but still how about giving us a wide screen res as well at the top end....

Also using a better GPU is gonna make a huge difference... the 8800GT is a good card no doubting that but its a good step down from the best, when testing CPUs you should use the fastest GPU setup you can get to give the CPU the room to shine. Doing a test at 640x480 just doesn't cut the mustard.

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Click to view doomtrooper's User Page doomtrooper (741)  Click to view doomtrooper's User Profile Talk to doomtrooper in the Shout! Box Apr 30, 2008 - 07:19 am
Running high resolution tests will only demonstrate the power of the video card. Low resolution tests demonstrate the power of the processor. Since the review is about a processor, you only need a basic video card to run the various apps and provide compatibility.

Higher res tests have shown many times that the CPU will not cause a bottleneck. There will be slight changes in performance due to different clocks, architecture and number of cores of each proc, but overall the video card is the limiting factor. The lowest resolution is used in order to remove the bottleneck and determine the best processor.

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Click to view zakspeed's User Page zakspeed (24)  Talk to zakspeed in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 08:34 pm
4 is better than 3. AMD sure has lost its way lately.

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Click to view Yoshi's User Page Yoshi (2227)  Click to view Yoshi's User Profile Talk to Yoshi in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 08:49 pm
Not really since these will be put mostly in bugget computers. If they can offer a good CPU for surfing the internet, checking email and running Word 92% of computer users will be happy.

Guess what? This is a chip that makes those users happy. Clearly it blows the multi threaded socks off any CPU Intel would have for these prices. Come on I am waiting for you to prove me wrong that this is a bad computer for the avarage home user who cares about running email and surfing the net more than running Crysis.

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Click to view deimos47's User Page deimos47 (434)  Talk to deimos47 in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 08:57 pm
Surfing/email/Word
we had something for things like that on campus - they are called "P3 eMachine PC".
I swear, one time, I was typing so fast, CPU utilization almost hit 30%!

On Pentium3, only common Office problem is crazy intense scrolling/resizing and massive spreadsheets.

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Click to view mr.wielder's User PageI am an AMD Agent mr.wielder (1394)  Click to view mr.wielder's User Profile Talk to mr.wielder in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Apr 24, 2008 - 09:43 am
If that computer had been running Vista, I bet you woulda wished for a better proc =]

Ok shady logic but you see my point!

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Click to view Yoshi's User Page Yoshi (2227)  Click to view Yoshi's User Profile Talk to Yoshi in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 02:59 pm
The really intresting thing a lot of people miss I think is that now HP, and Dell can have systems with 3X compaired to Dual Cores. At a market price of $165 the 8650 would be able to be put into a system with a retail cost of around $499 pretty easy by a large company.

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Click to view w00t's User Page w00t (924)  My XFire username is: w00t Talk to w00t in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 02:01 pm | Edited on Apr 25, 2008 - 01:49 am
If they are cheap and perform well.

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Click to view killrose's User PageI am an AMD Agent killrose (20)  Talk to killrose in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Apr 23, 2008 - 01:26 pm
No Phenom for me, uggh what a poor performer even when compared to the higher clocked AM64 X2 CPU's.

Happy with my BE5000+@3.0gig when I compare it with Phenom, but saddened I have no real upgrade path. Maybe 45nm will bring it on.

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Click to view Yoshi's User Page Yoshi (2227)  Click to view Yoshi's User Profile Talk to Yoshi in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 02:46 pm
As multi threaded apps become common the speed diffrence will become less and less. Also most of the benchmarks are not showing a major diffrence. For example a quad core would be faster in a game like Crysis than a dual core because of the way the game was writen. Though the diffrence between an Intel and an AMD chip in Crysis is only like 2fps. Also the top of the line Intel chip will probably be outdated at the same time frame as a AMD 3X. So do you want to pay $179 or do you want to pay $1000?

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Click to view deimos47's User Page deimos47 (434)  Talk to deimos47 in the Shout! Box Apr 23, 2008 - 08:51 pm
» Crysis does not benefit from quads
please check page6 of review again:
3.0Ghz E8400 - 95fps
2.4Ghz Q6600 - 77fps

Quad wins by **almost** 1fps at GPU limited rez - do you really want to pay hundreds $$$ extra for that??

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