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Posted by Brandon Sandman Bell on Wednesday July 02, 2008 - 06:14 AM

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» Intel: NVIDIA's CUDA will be an "interesting footnote" in history

Speaking with CustomPC, Intel Senior Vice President Pat Gelsinger said that NVIDIA's CUDA initiative and other programming models like CUDA, which harnesses the power of the GPU to perform tasks that have traditionally been handled by CPUs will be an "interesting footnote in the history of computing annals". According to Gelsinger, developers aren't willing to learn to program for it: "The problem that we’ve seen over and over and over again in the computing industry is that there’s a cool new idea, and it promises a 10x or 20x performance improvements, but you’ve just got to go through this little orifice called a new programming model,’ Gelsinger explained to Custom PC. Those orifices, says Gelsinger, have always been ‘insurmountable as long as the general purpose computing models evolve into the future.’" Gelsinger goes on to state that Intel's approach with Larrabee -- taking multiple x86 compatible processing cores and using them for graphics -- is more developer friendly as they're already familiar with x86.

Of course, what Gelsinger doesn't mention is that CUDA and ATI's equivalent, Brook+ are largely based on C+, a programming language that all developers have coded for at some point in time. OpenCL is another standard that is compatible with AMD and NVIDIA GPUs.

In any case, with all the buzz surrounding Larrabee years before it has even been launched, Intel is definitely setting expectations high for their upcoming GPU.

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Click to view Hatecrime69's User PageI am an AMD Agent Hatecrime69 (148)  My XFire username is: hatecrime69 Talk to Hatecrime69 in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jul 03, 2008 - 02:30 am
this intel vs nvidia pissing match is getting old quick..

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Click to view Phirewind's User Page Phirewind (894)  Talk to Phirewind in the Shout! Box Jul 02, 2008 - 07:30 pm
Kaosu's right. It doesn't matter what language you're speaking if you're trying to tell a hummingbird to bark or a dog to fly backwards. However, it does speak ill of the Intel spokesperson to trash CUDA so much when it's already shown so much massive improvement in performance for media encoding and photo manipulation. No one solution is going to be the end-all. That, and I'll have to wonder what the price difference will be for the end solutions.

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Click to view Kaosu's User Page Kaosu (47)  Talk to Kaosu in the Shout! Box Jul 02, 2008 - 06:01 pm
I think you might be a little confused.

So what its in C+? It has nothing to do with the programming language, rather its the model or execution platform that gives it the problem. Its like the Cell CPU or anything else; its not just a matter of making a program that works with the GPU. Its a matter of making it 'for' it.

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Click to view larsig's User Page larsig (780)  Talk to larsig in the Shout! Box Jul 03, 2008 - 09:39 am
You're completely right. Well, more or less. Take Java for example. The language is platform independent and as long as the coder understands basic computer science principles they can make a pretty efficient program regardless of if it is on an x86 machine or PowerPC. Of course, somewhere they gotta write the code to make it work on whatever platform you're on, and that takes place with the JVM, which relies on a team at Sun.

For general purpose programs that don't need every bit of performance out of a system the platform doesn't matter much, but things like games and research apps the platform does matter. And in this case, games is probably a major target.

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Click to view froggz's User Page froggz (681)  My XFire username is: FROGGZ Talk to froggz in the Shout! Box Jul 03, 2008 - 12:09 pm
Okay, so someone will put all the hard work in to making the machine language coding easily accessible through C+ and all other programmers will benefit from their work.

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