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Posted by Brandon Sandman Bell on Tuesday September 30, 2008 - 09:11 AM

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» Epic's CliffyB cites piracy as argument against GoW 2 PC

Speaking to Total Video Games Epic's Cliff Bleszinski discusses Gears of War 2 and how it compares to the original game in the series. When speaking on GoW 2, TVG asks him his opinion of the Xbox 360 versus the PC:
TVG: Do you see the Xbox 360 as the main platform as opposed to the PC? During the whole Unreal time it was very much PC focused.

CliffyB: The PC right now is a fair amount different to what it was back in the day, with all the badly integrated video chips. Here's the problem right now; the person who is savvy enough to want to have a good PC to upgrade their video card, is a person who is savvy enough to know bit torrent to know all the elements so they can pirate software. Therefore, high-end videogames are suffering very much on the PC.

TVG: So piracy was a main point for you...

CliffyB: Right now, it makes sense for us to focus on Xbox 360 for a number of reasons. Not least PCs with multiple configurations and piracy.

TVG: But when the dust has settled, is there any possibility of Gears 2 on PC?

CliffyB: No.

TVG: Definitely not?

CliffyB: No.

Personally, I'm a little skeptical that piracy played much of a role in lackluster sales for Gears of War PC. IMO, the fact that the game shipped a year after the game hit the 360, as well as a slew of compelling FPS games that shipped in the same 4 week timespan played more of a role than anything else. What do you think? With id, Crytek, and Epic all focusing on consoles first rather than PC, what AAA FPS developer is left other than Valve?

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Click to view Yoshi's User Page Yoshi (2319)  Click to view Yoshi's User Profile Talk to Yoshi in the Shout! Box Oct 02, 2008 - 02:07 pm
Well look at the gods of gaming from the late 90's. John Remero, Levelord and nameless others all saying what the future of gaming was. Now where are they?

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Click to view kornedbeefy's User Page kornedbeefy (10)  Talk to kornedbeefy in the Shout! Box Oct 02, 2008 - 11:32 am
Can we cut the chase and agree that Cliffy B. is just a 360 fan boy. He spouts B.S. just like they do.

Gaming editors need to stop giving this console fan boy the opportunity to spread his PC gaming hate venom. He's been saying the same shait for almost a year now over and over.

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Click to view Labotomizer's User Page Labotomizer (1077)  Click to view Labotomizer's User Profile Talk to Labotomizer in the Shout! Box Oct 01, 2008 - 03:41 pm
I think too many people here are focusing too heavily on the piracy portion of Cliffy's statement and ignoring the other parts. Piracy is mostly just a lame excuse. It boils down to lowering development costs. It should be cheaper to develop for 360 than for PC just because of consistent hardware. It also allows them to shrink their QA department. Piracy isn't the real reason devs are jumping ship on the PC. It's cheaper to develop on consoles and they have a larger market.

Also, I don't really care GoW2 isn't coming out for PC. It's a console game if I've ever seen one. In fact, with the way they screwed up UT3, I'd be fine never seeing another Epic game for the PC. They can join the other console developers, it's easier to keep console-only gamers happy anyway.

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Click to view sbuckler's User Page sbuckler (33)  Talk to sbuckler in the Shout! Box Oct 01, 2008 - 07:42 am
They are still smarting because ut3 didn't sell like they wanted it too. Nothing to do with piracy - new people just didn't want to play the game, and they then did a great job of p**sing off all the hard core fans - so they stopped playing too.

Their response has been "stuff the pc". Well EPIC stuff you.

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Click to view Kessandra's User PageI am an AMD Agent Kessandra (1008)  My XFire username is: kessandra Click to view Kessandra's User Profile Talk to Kessandra in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Oct 01, 2008 - 01:06 am
Hey morons: Spore sold a million copies a few weeks ago. Spore is a PC exclusive. Spore also happened to be the most pirated thing on the Pirate Bay for weeks, beating movies, music and more. It was also the most pirated game on several other torrent websites, achieving 500,000 downloads since launch on one website alone.

Did the DRM stop the pirates? No. Did the pirates affect sales? No. The pirates will always be pirates, period. You cannot factor people that will never buy your game to say that they affected sales, because they didn't. There are enough legitimate customers in this world that won't go online and download a game. Galactic Civilizations II and Sins of a Solar Empire, both without any form of DRM sold well. So did Relic's Company of Heroes which shipped without DRM.

Piracy isn't killing the PC games industry. It's developers that can't recognize that fighting piracy is futile and that by fighting piracy you are discouraging legitimate customers from buying your game. I am certain that if Spore dropped its DRM, all the 1-star ratings on Amazon.com and other websites along with the enormous amount of people boycotting the game wouldn't be doing so and Spore would have easily hit 2 million sales.

Fact of the matter is Gears came to the PC way to late, came with the shit-tastic Games for Windows Live, had some bad bugs and poor optimizations and was stuck competing with many other great (or better) FPS's.

CliffyB was bought out by Microsoft long ago. It's time to realize that it's not Cliffy speaking but rather some Microsoft higher-up speaking through him. Ignore his foolish comments that "Anyone who's smart enough to pick out a good PC will go on the Internet and rob us".

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Click to view Yoshi's User Page Yoshi (2319)  Click to view Yoshi's User Profile Talk to Yoshi in the Shout! Box Oct 01, 2008 - 05:54 am
I bet nobody goes to the pirate bay the pirate Xbox 360 games do they because the system is hack proof according to Cliffy B.

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Click to view larsig's User Page larsig (780)  Talk to larsig in the Shout! Box Oct 01, 2008 - 06:47 am
/me hides his modded media player xbox (original)

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Click to view LazyGarfield's User Page LazyGarfield (187)  Click to view LazyGarfield's User Profile Talk to LazyGarfield in the Shout! Box Oct 01, 2008 - 02:14 am | Edited on Oct 01, 2008 - 02:23 am
I couldnt agree more.

Pirates wont be buying console games instead ;-)

Face it developers. If you release the PC version of your game like years after you released the console version why should anyone bother buying such an old game then?

Nowadays pirates are the excuse for everything. I´m sure piracy is also the reason why developers cant finish games anymore before they are selling them ;-)

Back then when I was younger we copied every game and song and never bought any and NOONE ever whined about pirates. Just because they didnt see the diskettes/cd´s being shared.

Today I´m buying every game I want to play because I can afford it and because I dont want to pirate a good game.

But what do customers mostly get? Some bug hole of an unfinished shitgame because developers dont seem to care shit about a finished game (hence for theyr customers).

Instead they are focusing on theyr lame copy protection which does NEVER work good enough anyways and is just scaring regular customers away!

PPL who cant afford games will still pirate them along with those for who its just a hobby to pirate games.

I did not buy GoW for a good reason, because I´m not interested in such games since way too many are swarming the market and most are too short to be worth it.

I belive for Cliffy it is just easier to program games for consoles because they are all the same.

In reality developers are just focusing on consoles since they are scared or too stupid to continue programming games for PC´s. PC´s are featuring too much different hardware/drivers etc. which increases the effort and every publisher/developer is seeking to lower the effort to make more money.

The piracy statement is just theyr excuse.

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