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Posted by Tom YodaBlues Colarusso on Monday January 12, 2009 - 08:32 AM

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» ASUS Xonar Essence STX Review

Boasting a 124dB signal-to-noise ratio, a built-in headphone amp delivering 600ohms of impendence with <0.001% distortion, swappable OPAmp socket, and Nichicon "Fine Gold" capacitors, the ASUS Xonar Essence is designed for audio purists who want the best audio quality possible. But does the card live up to its specs? See how the card performs in this review!

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Click to view Hardshell's User Page Hardshell (2)  Talk to Hardshell in the Shout! Box Jan 13, 2009 - 05:44 am | Edited on Jan 13, 2009 - 06:09 am
» ReviewFail
Tom's take on DDL, which, allegedely "can easily replace the loss of hardware accelerated audio" shows the author has little understanding of what he is talking about. DDL and accelerated audio are two completely different things. The whole take on frequency response above 20kHz shows some lack of knowledge in acoustics. Sure it is complex knowldge but for a $200 "audiophile" card you would expect a competent reviewer. That's even more obvious in the context of that Logitech's speaker set famous for boomy bass - a nightmare for anyone aspiring to be perceived as an audiophile...
For that reason I admit I skipped the subjective listening part and doubt RMAA tests were run properly either. I happen to have the X-Fi card and am sure my ears would notice if frequency response had indeed such an adventurous shape.

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Click to view Yoda_Blues's User PageI am an AMD Agent Yoda_Blues (263)  My XFire username is: yodablues Click to view Yoda_Blues's User Profile Talk to Yoda_Blues in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 13, 2009 - 01:50 pm
You're correct, perhaps replace was the wrong terminology to use there in regard to DDL section. However, I fully understand there is a big difference between hardware acceleration and DDL. I never meant to imply they were the same thing, only that the rewrite of the audio stack has necessitated changes in the way hardware is designed. Due to this, we have OpenAL wrappers that are meant to re-introduce the functionality lost from that re-write.

As for the comments on the 20kHz range, Asus includes a booklet on their testing results that shows they got a better result than we did. Now why that it is, I do not know. But my job as a reviewer is test a hardware manufacturer's claims. Our results did not match what they were claiming, so I pointed that out.

Finally, from the article in regard to the X-Fi RMAA:

"The X-Fi’s results were all over the place throughout all our frequency response tests. We tried tweaking the driver options, but we always saw the same result. Even following Creative’s guidelines for testing with RMAA did not give us different results. We are left to conclude that something must be happening either at the driver or hardware level that is altering the test results, but we were unable to find any answers as to what that was."

That should be pretty clear that the RMAA results for the X-Fi should not be counted against it, as we weren't getting accurate results.

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Click to view DanTheMathlete's User Page DanTheMathlete (235)  Click to view DanTheMathlete's User Profile Talk to DanTheMathlete in the Shout! Box Jan 13, 2009 - 09:03 am
Well put.

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Click to view bobbinalong's User Page bobbinalong (1)  Talk to bobbinalong in the Shout! Box Jul 31, 2009 - 06:22 pm
» Don't buy this card for live audio recording
There is a half second delay between when you send analog audio to the line level input and when you hear it played back on the speakers. I have never had an audio card that had this problem. I talked to Asus tech support and they said there was no way around this issue. The forum for this card on their website said the same thing. It appears to be an issue with the driver.
The worst thing about this is that on the Asus website the tech specs for this card say the following:
"ASIO 2.0 Driver Support:
Supports 44.1K/48K/96K/192KHz @16/24bit with very low latency"
Very Low latency? I DON'T THINK SO.
Anything that we can hear is not low latency, let alone very low latency.

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Click to view p4l1ndr0m3's User PageI am an AMD Agent p4l1ndr0m3 (339)  Click to view p4l1ndr0m3's User Profile Talk to p4l1ndr0m3 in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 12, 2009 - 03:39 pm | Edited on Jan 12, 2009 - 06:33 pm
Yes, we all hate Creative, but my X-Fi platinum kicks this thing's arse...

Having the front audio ports in a 5.75" slot is extremely convenient, not to mention a near necessity. The last thing I want to do is reach around my computer under my desk to plug a mic in or something. Heck, I can use my X-Fi as a guitar amp.

Seriously though, 0.01 or less percent distortion CANNOT be heard by human ears, audiophile or not. An audiophile can be described as someone who spends excessive amounts of money to achieve a better sound quality through the placebo effect! (More money = better sound, RIGHT!?)

You can find X-Fi platinum or Fatal1ty platinums for between 80-100 bucks, how can you justify spending 200 on this?

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Click to view Yoda_Blues's User PageI am an AMD Agent Yoda_Blues (263)  My XFire username is: yodablues Click to view Yoda_Blues's User Profile Talk to Yoda_Blues in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 12, 2009 - 04:03 pm
All your complaints I pretty much covered in the review. That's why the card did good as far as pure audio reproduction is concerned, but lost points in the usability areas.

It's really important to understand (and I'm pretty sure I said this in the review too, but maybe not) that the Essence is NOT a gaming card nor should it be considered in the same league. Gaming tests were done just out of curiosity. It performed pretty well in Vista (where the gaming audio playing field is leveled somewhat since audio acceleration was removed), so I thought it was worth mentioning.

A person who wants to change out op-amps or uses a $400 set of cans wants a good sound card for audio reproduction. The Essence fits in that role.

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Click to view p4l1ndr0m3's User PageI am an AMD Agent p4l1ndr0m3 (339)  Talk to p4l1ndr0m3 in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 12, 2009 - 06:37 pm
Well, I just looked at Creative's new Titanium, and I may need to retract my previous statement because it looks horrid AND expensive...

When is someone going to step up and make Creative give two poops about their products instead of nerfing their drivers to force upgrades on their customers?

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Click to view TM's User Page TM (5)  Talk to TM in the Shout! Box Jan 12, 2009 - 03:33 pm
» Hmm..
This site is getting worse with each day, more banners and less real news.
Are you seriously trying to test this grade of audiocomponents hooked up to a cheap Logitech Z-5500 soundsystem (I own these myself and I know what they are fit for as well as their limitations)and a pair of cheap earbuds?!!
In the good old days FS tested a pair of Senn HD-580 cans, how come you didn't use them this time?

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Click to view Yoda_Blues's User PageI am an AMD Agent Yoda_Blues (263)  My XFire username is: yodablues Click to view Yoda_Blues's User Profile Talk to Yoda_Blues in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 12, 2009 - 04:12 pm
I apologize about the lack of real headphone tests, my set of audio-technica's broke about a month ago and I haven't had money to replace them. I tested with what I had and decided to not sit on the card until I could replace my cans. However, please keep in mind that subjective tests are exactly that: subjective. This is why we used RMAA as a technical way of showing how the Essence performed.

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Click to view bcordasco's User Page bcordasco (14)  Talk to bcordasco in the Shout! Box Jan 12, 2009 - 10:21 am
» roll off above 20KHz
Those other cards probably have a high cutoff filter at 20KHz since the old school thought is that we can't hear above 20KHz.

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