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Labotomizer (1077)    Sep 11, 2009 - 02:53 pm

The card is priced where it is for those who have to have new tech as soon as it comes out. It will come down for the rest of us before long. I just don't understand the anger at a company using the fact they are first to market with a product charging more. ESPECIALLY when, as you say, there aren't even any "must have" games yet and won't be until the price is more reasonable. So why the crying? Unless you do care and are upset you can't rush out and buy the latest tech when you don't really need it right away... I picked up a 4870 on the cheap to get me by. I'll pass that along to my wife's computer when the 5870 is in the $200ish range. » Login to reply to this

LORD ORION (1368)    Sep 10, 2009 - 03:58 pm

The Tflops of course. We should all be learning quantum physics and writing parallel math apps while we await the DX11 games. » Login to reply to this

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p4l1ndr0m3 (418)    Sep 10, 2009 - 12:33 pm

I don't know what you've been smoking, but most of my geeky friends have made the switch to ATI/AMD. Excessive driver issues for nVidia and the OCing power of the ATIs have won many hearts and minds. I do agree, however, that paying $300 for a graphics card is stupid. The next generation of graphics cards is going to bring forth some CPU bottlenecking. » Login to reply to this  LORD ORION (1368)   Sep 10, 2009 - 04:08 pm Easy, I haven't been excited about a video card inawhile... but $299 for a mainstream nextgen card is F'ing retarded, so I am trying to get un-excited. :) » Login to reply to this  Cogito (110)   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:41 pm | Edited on Sep 18, 2009 - 04:30 am While the ATI line of video cards have done very well (I personally use a Palit 4870 1GB), their CPU sales would suggest that most people recognise the superior Intel price/performance ratios. » Login to reply to this

Yoshi (2319)    Sep 10, 2009 - 09:35 am | Edited on Sep 10, 2009 - 09:38 am

Saying a PS3 is a better value to a gamer isn't taking into account the graphics quality you get out of the video card and I would be suprised if someone can't go a couple years with both a video card and a PS3 It is also worth pointing out that Diablo 3 and Starcraft two is only coming out for one of these setups. » Login to reply to this  LORD ORION (1368)   Sep 10, 2009 - 09:55 am Paying > $150 twice in 2 years is smarter. eg: Right now you should 1) Buy a PS3 now that is is $299 and tell your girlfriend it is the best Bluray player for the price. 2) In a year buy a 5850 for $100 instead of $300, and stick with this cycle. When people stop buying cards when they are overpriced, companies will stop trying to overprice them. » Login to reply to this

redman jones (102)   Sep 10, 2009 - 08:42 am

The performance of the card and its cost to the end user are the only 2 metrics on which fanboyism is based. The difference between AMD and Nvidia is Nvidia is much more successful with their marketing. Is Nvidia a better buy because their cards don't drop in price as quickly as AMD cards? No. The card with the better performance per dollar spend is the better card, so why do you care if a fast card becomes cheap? Just wait it out. » Login to reply to this  LORD ORION (1368)   Sep 10, 2009 - 09:50 am I disagree on a psychological basis... fanboys have low self-esteem because they measure their worth in hardware. When ATI rapidly drops their prices, the ATI fanboy needs to justify his purchase somehow rather than accept the fact that this is routine and he should have known better. So they venemously attack nVidia. The second time this happens they turn on ATI and join the green side, as it is less of a blow to their self-esteem sticking with Nvidia's high prices. » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (1077)    Sep 11, 2009 - 02:49 pm You're talking about ATI slashing prices yet fail to mention the fact that nvidio dropped prices of the GTX cards massively when the 4000 series launched. Less than 2 weeks after nvidia's cards came out over $100 was dropped off the price on almost the entire lineup. The same thing will happen again. Blaming any company for using the fact that they are first to market to increase margins and profitability is silly. That's how the real world works. It's the same reason the new, hottest car can usually get more than MSRP. Because demand outweighs supply. A company that doesn't exploit this fact will be a failure. » Login to reply to this

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