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Labotomizer (989)    Nov 12, 2009 - 04:19 pm

Rage could possibly be that game given iD's past history of delivering a game playable and looking good on current hardware yet still able to tax a generation or two of future releases. We'll have to see though. With devs moving more and more towards console first, PC second it's looking like each generation of graphics cards will bring diminishing returns due to the games more than the power of the hardware. » Login to reply to this

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redman jones (99)   Nov 09, 2009 - 11:37 pm

Not really, Nvidia are starting to chase different markets with their gpus. Nvidia just need it to be respectable in comparison to Ati » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)   Nov 12, 2009 - 07:46 am The "chase different markets" argument comes up any time someone falls behind. ATI beat nvidia to the punch, chasing different markets is a pretty poor excuse. And we'll see, overall so far I find it hard to believe Fermi is going to launch capable of the estimated 5 teraflops of performance the 5970 will have. » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)    Nov 13, 2009 - 06:12 pm I understand the additional markets nvidia is going after but you seem to forget that AMD/ATi play in that space too. The real difference is that once Bulldozer ships you'll have Fusion cores with top of the line GPU performance AND top of the line CPU performance, giving highly scalable APUs. Don't assume that nvidia is chasing this market while ATi sits quietly by. The bottom line is that ATi beat nvidia to market this time. Applications that take full advantage, at least on a large scale, of GPGPU tech is far away and to think they'll take nvidia's proprietary CUDA solution over OpenCL and DX11 compute shade is ridiculous. You'll code so that your software will run on any DX11/OpenCL compliant hardware, not alienate Intel and AMD. » Login to reply to this  redman jones (99)   Nov 12, 2009 - 06:53 pm It isn't an excuse at all, why do you think they push GPGPU computing so much? Why have they engineered Fermi to be so unnecessarily accurate if they only wanted to be the fastest at playing games? They want people to use Fermi to do more than just accelerate 3D games. Nvidia realises that AMD and Intel could squeeze them out of the 3D market so they are trying to find new markets to penetrate. Go read up about Nvidias work with Tesla, and understand why Fermi is so over-engineered for games. » Login to reply to this

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