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Anonymous at 06:18pm 07/4/2005
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i bought a dual processor xeon at 3 gigs with 4 gigis ram and 128
meg vido card for 1300
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Anonymous at 07:32am 02/20/2005
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The size of the cache, which is larger on EE chips, makes a
difference. Its not vaporware. Making small changes to existing CPUs
that make them arguably faster is the modern way of maintaining
margins, and charging extra for things that really don't cost the
manufacturer must extra. How much "difference" it makes
depends on the application. Benchmarks now have to be carefully
understood, because if all of the code can sit in the cache, then
you are testing something completely different than a real world
application than likely can't.
I'm always entertained by "gaming performance" forums. its
like a bunch of teenagers arguing that their mustangs are better or
faster than BMWs. Why are your "benchmarks" always on
33Mhz bus machines? You regularly compare 2 MBs that have different
NICs and different video controllers. Do you really think that the
CPU is the only factor? And how do you account for the exact SAME
CPU on 2 DIFFERENT MBs giving completely different results?
The architecture of the CPU is certainly interesting conversation,
but the ONLY thing that matters is the relative performance of the
complete product.
Intel is certainly not "running scared". The truth is that
they could squash AMD like a bug anytime they want. Another relative
truth is that in the big picture, there isn't much performance
difference between the highest end Intel vs the highest end AMD cpu.
So why is ANYONE using AMD when intel is clearly the better
supported platform for most every O/S? Because people like the
underdog. People like to bash the Intels and Microsofts of the
world. And lets face it, most of this FSB and
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Anonymous at 01:29pm 02/17/2005
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Anonymous at 01:26pm 02/17/2005
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voces sao un filhos das putas e so apanham na cona seux chupa pissas
do caralho
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Anonymous at 01:30am 10/2/2003
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new technologies usually take some time to mature, remember the
number of mobo revisions that manufacturers have to make in order
for amd xp+ procs to work properly? at least P4 EE works without
changing your mobo, with amd 64 you have to buy new mobos and the
number of issues and compatibilities are unknown... nforce3? read in
reviews that nforce3 boards were plagued by bugs/incompatibilites as
of the moment
i am an AMD fan since late 90's, a 64/32 bit compatible proc is just
awesome, P4 EE is paper launch, and AMD will it P4 EE once its
higher clocked amd 64 procs are released in the near future!
GOGOGO AMD!!!!
-Ace Balasador
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MrKuul at 03:38am 09/28/2003
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Yes P4 and Xeons have virtually the same silicon, I'm not arguing
that.
It appears I was wrong, you can get 8x AGP Xeon motherboards. I'm
sure they cost twice as much as your standard P4 motherboard
however. In my previous article when I said the processors used
different motherboards, I was referring mostly to the price of the
mobo. They are in different leagues.
To say that the P4EE and Xeon are the same thing is stupidity. I
challenge you to find a Xeon motherboard (socket 600 something) with
the same features and price tag as a normal P4 motherboard. If you
can then I'm obviously full of it.
The Xeon motherboards cost %%&% loads more. Xeon processors cost
%%&% loads more. Therefore there is no way you can say a Xeon = a
P4EE, when the price tags have such a huge difference. The P4EE is a
classic paper launch.
If you want to prove me wrong go out and buy a P4EE tomorrow. Or
according to your logic, you can just go buy a Xeon tomorrow. I
would love to see the price tag for that Xeon system.
They have very similar silicon but are aimed at completely different
markets, with different price tags. I should have emphasised the $$$
more in my last post. Don't try and pretend otherwise, you just look
stupid.
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cordas at 06:59am 09/27/2003
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One other thing. Yes Intel have a habit of pulling rabbits from
hats.
They have a habit of pulling half dead rabbits from hats, remember
the Pentium that couldn't add up, the P3 1ghz chip that got recalled
and scrapped, the 1st P4s that where just a very expensive joke,
nearly twice the htz but slower than their old P3s.
AMD have a habit of going away and maybe coming to the table second,
what they put out to the customers has always been a good product
and worked from the get go.
Think about the "NEW" Athlon 64, a lot of its basic
arcitechture is taken from the Athlon. The Athlon core is how old? 8
years? Something like that. The Athlon debuted back at the half gig
mark...
Sounds a bit like that kids story of the tortoise and the hare to
me.
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cordas at 06:51am 09/27/2003
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Paper launch and vapourware are completely different things.
No one doubts that the P4EE exists, or that it will hit the shelves.
Its just that Intel have "launched" it, but you can't buy
it yet. It really is very simple you know.
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cordas at 06:47am 09/27/2003
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Hmmm the Xeon is a CPU launched at a fundamentaly different market
to the P4.
Desktop and Server markets are completely different, and whilst they
want some of the same things the priorities and scales are on
different planets.
For desktop you want / NEED a whole load of fancy features to make
it so that you can get the highest FPS from your system, quickest
disk access, best sound e.t.c. You want this to be done for a
reasonable price and whilst stability is important its not vital.
Most desktop machines don't run 24/7 and are often rebooted. (Even
working on the tech desks upto 50-70% of all desktop faults are
fixed by getting the user to reboot their PC)
In the Server market STABILITY is the over riding concern,
everything else falls so far down the list that its not even on the
same page. After that comes data integrity and security, then
backups. Way down at the bottem of the list come all the bells and
whistles. Yes they are important but unless the system has stability
no server techbod worth even half a spit will buy it.
I have worked with companies who won't pay $20 a year for desktop
tech support 3rd party, yet will pay into the $X,000,000 a year per
server.
When it comes to tech support and therefore hardware Desktop and
Server are a world apart, yes they may use similar hardware that is
interchangable but they are completely different markets.
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GonePostal at 06:41am 09/27/2003
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Oh lots of xeon mobos have 8x agp. Supermicro makes a selection of
them.
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