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Millerboy (View my Profile) at 04:31pm 02/17/2004
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I think the target market that Intel was aiming for when they made
the P4EE is Bill Gates. No one else can afford that huge overpriced
CPU. Morons at Intel are sad.
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Anonymous at 04:03am 02/3/2004
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Thanks,
Its was exactly the same problem with SYSmark2002 MS identifed SSE
support by looking for an Intel chip rather then the SSE support
flag or whatever.
I agree that SYSmark2004 is much better than 2002 but how can
anybody trust a benchmark that turns its predecessers on results
their heads!!
I don't know how I missed the winstone thing but then I can hardly
find any mention of it on this site!
You know you said "look no further then ......" Where are
those results? searching for "content creation 2003" on
this site hardly generates any results.
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crazipper at 06:42pm 02/2/2004
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Not a problem =) (I'm actually the author)
So you know, there was never a SysMark 2003, so any reference to
Content Creation 2003 will have to be about the Winstone version.
The issue that you are talking about actually afflicted CCWS2003.
I'm not sure if it was a problem with SysMark 2002, but if so, then
we're on the same page for sure. The only problem is SysMark 2002
was a pretty bad indicator of performance, so I haven't kept up with
its progression (incidentally, the 2004 version seems much better).
The reason you can use 2003 as an indicator, is that WME 8.0 failed
to identify the Athlon 64 as SSE or SSE2 compliant because of the
way Microsoft ID'ed the processor. Thus, when it'd run CC2003, as
explained to me by AMD, it wouldn't benefit from the intruction set
support. After patching, however, your score would increase as a
result of the application utilizing the hardware support for SSE and
SSE2. This all came to me in an email from AMD before the Athlon 64
launched last September, so I'm relatively positive that the one
patch is representative of scores with and without SSE2 support.
The bottom line is, enabling the feature adds nearly 10% performance
in that particular benchmark suite. Any better? =)
Chris
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Anonymous at 03:10pm 02/2/2004
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You'll have to explain this then :-)
You are talking about Winstone CC, I assummed he was talking about
SYSmark CC.
I can recall a patch issued by AMD for SYSmark that corrected a
problem in that Sysmark CC used a version of WM encoder 9 that did
not use SSE for the athlonXP. However I recall no patch for CC
winstone that fixed SSE2 on the Athlon64.
I must have missed it. Could you post a link ? Either to the patch
or to the results mentioned in the review.
My point still stands (although winstone does not have SYSmarks
bias) in that using a BENCHMARK program as an indicator of SSE2
uptake is silly, some benchmarks had SSE2 versions within a few
weeks of the P4 launch but little software did.
Thanks
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crazipper at 01:51pm 02/2/2004
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Content Creation 2003 was a PC Mag benchmark. SysMark 2002 was the
BAPCo benchmark I think you're talking about. Two different
tests...
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Anonymous at 12:30pm 02/2/2004
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"Not that Prescott’s performance is bad – rather, considering
the number of enhancements Intel is touting, we’d hope that it would
do better in our benchmark suite. In most gaming scenarios, Prescott
is outperformed by the Northwood core, and of course, the
Gallatin-based Extreme Edition. Even AMD’s Athlon 64 3200+ bests it
in a majority of real-world benchmarks.
All the enhancements are only to try to cancel out the negative
effects of the longer pipeline. Which they do amazingly well IMHO.
What do you mean by the last line? *even* AMDs.....
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Anonymous at 12:08pm 02/2/2004
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" Without the 90nm process in full effect, Intel wouldn’t be
able to manufacture a core with 125 million transistors."
Eh! is there something strange about the number 125M because Intel
produce chips with both more and less transistors than this on 0.13
micron. Cost is another issue of course!
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Anonymous at 11:30am 02/2/2004
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"if you want concrete proof, look back at how AMD’ Athlon 64
scored in Content Creation 2003 before and after it was patched for
proper processor recognition."
Thats a joke right? SYSmark2003 was very Intel biased of course it
used SSE2 loads, because the athlon did not have it! I'm not
disagreeing with you that SSE2 was taken up reasonably well, but
using a popular and biased benchmark to prove your point was a
mistake.
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Anonymous at 10:20am 02/2/2004
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UT2K5?
You people are really sad if you are going to base your entire
computing hardware decisions solely on one game... like a few FPS
here and there are going to matter much
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robvia (View my Profile) at 08:41am 02/2/2004
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I'm still miffed. How can Dell or Gateway use this chip in desktop
computers, if it heats up? Dell cases (the black desktop ones)
have no vents. They're sold to companies in large quantities. My
company uses them, we've got hundreds.
I'm reading other threads of people switching to the Athlon 64 for
gaming. And the UT2003 numbers seem to back it up. I don't care
about encoding, and the video stuff. I'm building a new game
machine after I see the UT2K5 demo benchmarks.
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