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Dougie D. at 02:16pm 11/2/2004
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can somebody explain how it is fair besides the same apps?
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EyeMaster (View my Profile) at 07:59am 11/2/2004
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It would be if you were running diffrent apps. The software is the
same, so it doesn't matter!
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Dougie D. at 05:42am 11/2/2004
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my question is this...
how do you compare a 64 bit processor against a 32 bit processor?
Isn't that an unfair challenge?
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Anonymous at 01:48am 11/2/2004
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If you knew even half of what you pretend to about programming games
you wouldn't be wasting your time trolling these boards.
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Anonymous at 07:07pm 11/1/2004
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Now you are going back on your statement porkhead. You were the
idiot that said game performance basically tops out on a 1 ghz proc
now you are backing off of that. Really long posts don't make you
smart, just long winded and full of $##!.
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EyeMaster (View my Profile) at 11:53am 11/1/2004
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Pentium 4 only screws up in that long 31 pipeline only about 95-97%
of the time. But you're right, it has to flush the whole pipe if
something goes wrong and that means 31 clock cycles wasted!
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Anonymous at 09:51am 11/1/2004
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Amd is more efficient at processing information, its pipeline is
shorter on the core + it has a direct memory controller running at
core speed. Intel is still using its craptastic design and will
always have a bottleneck unless it changes how it transfers data
from cpu to memory to IO or vice versa. Intel procs run cycles
really fast and screw up ~50% of the time (branch prediction gone
bad) taking longer to recover from that error, which means you have
to reprocess that same information after the delay. Hence why amd
processors are more efficient and can produce the same amount of
work with less clock cycles. Ghz isnt everything as AMD and Intel
have both said.
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EyeMaster (View my Profile) at 09:13am 11/1/2004
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and 30...
You can't blame the bus speed on AMD. K6 cpu's used intel boards,
so fault comes to Intel. AMD came up with better bus design, where
more than one processor has it's own bus, so more bandwith, Intel
shares their bus. Ever since the Athlon days, AMD has had a better
bus system.
As for the defacto standard, that means you won't be using SSE3 or
any optimising instructions, so the processor decision is nill.
As for latency, you processos doesn't deal with that, it's the
chipset's job. There are lots of things happening in the processor
that we don't know about because all you see is the end result. If
Doom 3 and Quake 2 were similar like you mention, then why did Doom
3 take so long to make? It's not a Q2 Engine with new textures!
As far as market products, miss matched or whatever pool you're
looking at, processors fall in teh same category, another product.
The only diffrence is intel uses 31 (or so) steps (cycles) per
instructions, and AMD uses like 16 or 20 (whatever), besides that,
they are the same thing! they process instructions and information.
All products that work on an AMD board works on an Intel board, they
are all PC components. Maybe I missunderstood you?
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Spidy (View my Profile) at 09:08am 11/1/2004
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I see why you're choosing as such, and next year I will come to the
same conclusion more or less. I'm doubtful mainly because, how is
AMD going to launch into the major 3Ghz region? Their cpu's are
gaining speed at long intervals inevatably the amount of wattage
used will be anagolous to intel's u13 and u9 specs. AMD will have
to come to terms with their own wattage leakage issue sooner or
later. Unless OEM heatsinks designs start implementing cooling far
more advanced and utilizes copper tubes and water transference. Or
else it will not fair out very well.
But, I am fairly confident the socket 939 will support dual core,
but only with DDR-2 memory. By which that time PCIe will be ready
and S-ATA II finalized as well (Nforce 4 specs are already S-ATA II
but just hasn't announce it officially) But that wont come until
nForce 4.5 or maybe even nF5. Which requires waiting, and I'm one
very patient pc user.
Would be nice to go the intel route again, I lucked out when P4 was
launched, having very limited funds. My 1.2 Celeron system has
always; to my surprise and dismay :P proven to be the best, stablest
system I ever built.
The abit board you mentioned? Is it an enthusiast board? Which DAC
will it use? (intel's specs?) Will S-ATA II be included?
Dual PCIe 16x SLI (if need be?)
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