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Posted by Jakub Wojnarowicz on Tuesday November 02, 2004 - 08:00 AM

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» Free Fahrenheit 9/11

Spotted this tidbit on Wired.
On one site, Internets Vets for Truth, a group of technologists and bloggers got together late last week and decided to make available full copies of Fahrenheit 9/11, the pro-Kerry documentary Going Upriver, Outfoxed producer Robert Greenwald's Uncovered, Eminem's Mosh and a series of other political clips.

Greenwald has made it clear he wants his films to be freely available for noncommercial use.

Leonard Lin, a programmer and analyst at the University of Southern California and one of the people responsible for Internets Vets for Truth, said he and his friends were motivated to widely distribute the films by the controversy surrounding Sinclair Broadcasting's plans for airing the anti-Kerry film Stolen Honor. But he also said watching Going Upriver, the film about Kerry in Vietnam that includes his testimony before Congress upon his return, helped him decide to put up the site.

Meh, propaganda by any other name is still propaganda.

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#98 Author: Conspirator at 11:06pm 11/6/2004  
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What???

Next, you’re going to tell me there is no such thing as an
‘absolute’. If you’re looking for validation and affirmation, why
Moore?

 
#97 Author: VoodooV at 11:05pm 11/6/2004  
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Spinsanity tries to put their opinion off as fact as well, so
really, whats the diff?


gets to a point where you can't believe anything either party says,
one group says one thing, the other group vehemently denies it and
spins it against the other and vice versa.


im sick of both, so im independent.

 
#96 Author: VoodooV at 10:56pm 11/6/2004  
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you're proving my point Conspirator,

this conversation is directly analagous to Moore and Spinsanity.

I'm saying one thing, you disagree and say another, that makes
neither of us liars, just people who have differing opinions


as for the links, I didn't forget, I was too lazy to post them, but
I DID tell you of their existence, anyone who went to the site for
themselves could read them for themselves.


changes nothing.

 
#95 Author: Conspirator at 10:55pm 11/6/2004  
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Can’t disagree with you there. Wouldn’t that break some kind of law,
though?…

 
#94 Author: VoodooV at 10:49pm 11/6/2004  
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why can't people nitpick politicians to the same degree they nitpick
moore?


maybe our nation would be in better shape

 
#92 Author: VoodooV at 10:37pm 11/6/2004  
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and if you think about it "the voters preferred the dead
guy" is a little LESS damning than "the voters preferred
the dead guy's wife who had no experience in political office"


its irrelavent either way, the voters clearly didn't want ashcroft,
so their nitpicking of Moore's choice of words is weak at best

 
#91 Author: VoodooV at 10:12pm 11/6/2004  
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ahh, more misleading from the site accusing Moore of the same
thing:


"In his discussion of homeland security, Moore takes a cheap
shot at John Ashcroft, stating, "In 2000, he was running for
re-election as Senator from Missouri against a man who died the
month before the election. The voters preferred the dead guy."
Of course, the governor of Missouri who succeeded Mel Carnahan, the
so-called "dead guy," had promised to appoint Jean
Carnahan, the governor's widow, to the Senate if her late husband
won the election, a fact voters clearly understood.

"

how does the writer know what voters 'clearly understood' can he
read minds? did the author go to everyone who voted for the 'dead
guy' and ask them if they knew that ultimately, the widow would be
appointed?


There are links to news articles about the election embedded in the
original article, but they do nothing to illustrate that the voters
clearly understood that the widow was being appointed.


hey pot, this is kettle, you're black!


bottom line is that this site is countering Moore's opinion with
their own, end o story

 
#90 Author: VoodooV at 09:59pm 11/6/2004  
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I never said you did call him fat Conspirator,

just getting tired of people calling him fat as if that proves hes a
liar, please, odds are over half the people on this board are fat.

 
#89 Author: VoodooV at 09:54pm 11/6/2004  
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again, prove to me they're falsehoods and then we'll talk. all that
website is is a bunch of this:


Michael Moore quotes someone else as saying A we think its
misleading, oh and we found someone who says B. therefore he is
wrong, and by proxy, Moore is wrong


thats @$%!#&#&. Toobin gives a legal opinion, someone else gives a
different opinion, and suddenly that makes Moore is a liar???


thats countering alleged disengenuosity with more disengenuosity.
so I fail to see how anyone can claim the high road here. The only
thing I can give the site credit for is that they never directly
call him a liar, they mostly just say that THEY THINK that he's not
telling the whole story, please, who isn't guilty of that.


Maybe Moore isn't being completely honest, but since when did he
have monopoly on that?


so again, disagree? fine, no problem with that, even the site can
never pin down any lies on him, just that they think he's
misleading, but this hate towards him only makes his voice louder.

 
#88 Author: Conspirator at 09:51pm 11/6/2004  
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…And just where are you going? I never called Michael Moore “fat”,
and where do the Republicans and Democrats fit into this?

 
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