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Posted by Paul Clarity Jastrzebski on Friday June 17, 2005 - 11:45 AM

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» Budget Graphics Showdown: ATI X300 SE HyperMemory vs. NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache

With Intel's integrated graphics offerings continuing to dominate the graphics market, both ATI and NVIDIA have unveiled newer DX9 value cards that hit price points that were previously unheard of -- just $50! In this article Paul takes a look at two different GeForce 6200 TC cards, as well as ATI's equivalent offering, the RADEON X300 SE, pairing them against Intel's latest integrated offering found in the 945G chipset. See how the four graphics chips stack up in a variety of games and benchmarks in our latest article!

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#18 Author: FS-Pongky (View my Profile) at 03:49pm 06/23/2005  
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Say "hyper-memory-turbo-cache" ten times fast!

Besides, if you worked in marketing for one these companies, and you
saw the other try to market their name with an almost misleading
name, you'd have to do it too - or suffer in sales because their
card is called "SuperHyperTurboDeluxe" while you marketed
yours as "Power-Lite" or "Ho-Hum".

 
#17 Author: Anonymous at 09:21pm 06/19/2005  
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Why does every performance chart list a radeon 9200se instead of
X300se? Typo on every chart?

I was wondering about that too... What card are you actually using?

 
#16 Author: vanisher at 10:57am 06/19/2005  
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Does the mobile x300 use HyperMemory as well?

 
#15 Author: deimos47 at 02:29pm 06/18/2005  
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Things were so simple in the ye olde times:
TNT2 TNT2Pro TNT2Ultra
GeForce2MX GeForce2 GTS GeForce2 Pro Geforce2 Ultra

even fx5200 fx5200ultra fx5600 fx5600ultra fx5700 fx5700ultra
made sense in a quirky way. I think the problem is too many options
in too small a price range. At most each gfx vendor should only need
like 9 options. 3 each for value, mid, and high end segments. this
worked so wonderfully simply for ATI:

9000SE 9000 9000Pro, 9500 9500Pro, 9700 9700pro

and then later:
9200SE 9200 9200Pro, 9600SE 9600 9600Pro 9600XT, 9800SE 9800 9800PRO
and 9800XT... now you see things are getting a bit complicated.


But ATI had the right idea...

the simplest solution is to just have 1 or 2 TC models... perhaps
the 32MB and 64MB.. and call the 32MB Pro or Ultra or whatever..
they're already like $60-$70. The extra $2 you save on getting the
16MB version isn't really going to save you anything.. the label on
the box alone probably costs more..

 
#14 Author: hades (View my Profile) at 06:15am 06/18/2005  
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Although this article probably isn't all that interesting to us
since most of us wouldnt dream of having these cards in our system,
low end cheap graphics are where the money is an area where intel
still has a large market share. Joe PC buyer doesnt even know what a
graphics card is so it is an ideal area for computer manufacturers
to make themselves a saving. ATi and Nvidia need this market to
survive and these cards can offer reasonable performance at low
cost.

 
#13 Author: Egglick at 06:11am 06/18/2005  
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Yeah, the graphic card naming schemes are confusing enough to the
average user, but these cards bring it to a whole new level that
borders on false advertising.


The cards are promising, but the marketing departments need to be
handed their pink slips and given a swift boot-kick to the $$!.
Absolutely rediculous.

 
#12 Author: deimos47 at 11:18pm 06/17/2005  
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I think for what it intended to do, the article did it well. Its a
comparison of available very-lowest-low-end gfx cards that nVidia
and ATI are seducing OEM's with to counter Intel's iron grip on
integrated gfx. Firingsquad makes the excellent point that despite
all performance or feature advantages, the compatibility that comes
with ATI/nVidia driver support alone, is an uncontested peace of
mind and value for the dollar. Ofcourse you can counter, who in
right mind would try to play any games at all with these kinda
systems... well considering the huge advances ATI/nVidia have made
from the likes of fx5200, not only do you get dx9 features but even
possibility to use them! However, I definetly must agree with
comments about nVidia marketing. If I was CEO or Director, I would
take a sledgehammer to action over those boneheads... confusion is
the single worst thing for marketing because it leads to doubt,
which is a path to the dark side... err... consumer running away
like a dear from the hunter.


Here are some pointers PR folk:
Keep names short... and avoid misinformation, it will come back to
haunt you in long run.

Perhaps suffixes might do the job... or different model numbers:
6200TC 64MB (up to 256MB)
6200TC PRO 32MB (up to 128MB)
6300TC 32MB (up to 128MB)
I know its hard to come up with a good system in this case, but
ANYTHING other than having different products named the same would
have helped! Anything!

 
#11 Author: Anonymous at 07:50pm 06/17/2005  
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Why does every performance chart list a radeon 9200se instead of
X300se? Typo on every chart?

 
#10 Author: dbb970s at 07:21pm 06/17/2005  
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On the subject of cheap video cards; if you look around for deals on
used video cards, you're bound to buy something that kicks the
absolute crap out of these sub-$75 POS cards for the same money.

 
#9 Author: dbb970s at 07:16pm 06/17/2005  
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This whole article is irrelevant since these cards aren't going to
go into gaming systems. I mean really, if this is all the video
card you can afford, you need to stick to last generation console
games for your fix.

 
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