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Posted by Alan Dang on Tuesday June 28, 2005 - 09:03 PM

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» Eternal Battle Day 3: Stretching Your Dollar

The truth is revealed. We’ve talked about building the no-budget desktop and the no-budget workstation. What about the best-bang-for-the-buck desktop and workstation? What about other power supplies or products? Your answers are in here. Welcome to Day 3 of FiringSquad’s Eternal Battle 2005.

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#12 Author: Anonymous at 01:16pm 06/29/2005  
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I don't agree entirely with your opinion. Even though a clash of the
titans might be fun read it probably won't hold any practical value
for majority of the users. On the other hand, even though the author
was talking about no budget systems, he did not go over the board
with price/value ratio..bringing to the table the best computer a
smart and rich consumer will go for. Anything over that will be an
overkill and waste of money...

 
#11 Author: Anonymous at 12:03pm 06/29/2005  
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I'm really quite dissapointed to read this installment of your 5
part article. I, and surely many other people have very _little_
interest in a 'medium-budget pc' versus a 'medium budget
workstation'.


When arbitarily choosing middle-spec cpu speeds etc. you take all
the 'umph' out of the article because its no longer top-technology
vs top-technology. Now I see why you went for sub-par HDD subsystems
in the no-budget systems.



I dont mean to be disrespectful, but it would have been a much
better idea not to do this kind of thing when initially promising a
titanic battle between PC technology vs Workstation technology.

 
#10 Author: Jep4444 (View my Profile) at 08:15am 06/29/2005  
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Why did you recomend an SLI board and then follow that up by
recomending an X800XL.


The MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI is a poor choice for an SLI mobo due
to certain physical constraints that limit the motherboard(the
7800GTX is too long to fit into the second PCI-E slot for example.
This may not be a problem for more budget concious systems but if
theirs a budget than SLI isn't the best choice anyways. NF4 Ultra
would be a better choice anyways since SLI upgrading requires the
two cards to be physically the same and have the same BIOS meaning
adding a second card later can be a pain.


Lasty I think the HDD recomendation should note the availability of
NCQ in Seagate and Maxtor HDDs(not sure who else supports NCQ but i
know Western Digital doesn't) but NCQ would be worth it in almost
any system at almost no performance cost.

 
#9 Author: Anonymous at 07:47am 06/29/2005  
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Unlike #8, I thought the article was actually very interesting and
thought provoking. The title said stretching your dollar ... not el
cheapo PC.

 
#8 Author: Anonymous at 06:24am 06/29/2005  
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This is complete garbage. You've taken a fine idea and flushed it
right down the toilet. You lied right on the @$%!&%! tease to this
article? You built a no-budget gaming pc and no-budget workstation?
That is h-o-r-s-e-s-h-i-t. You skimped out on parts on both
machines with claims of budget limitations.

I hope you get AIDS and are forced to walk around some geriatric
laden hospital in a thin hospital gown for the rest of your
cough-ridden, skin-peeling days.

 
#7 Author: Anonymous at 05:59am 06/29/2005  
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On page 3 you have a bit of a grammatical error in the Random Fact
section.


"Pentium M’s are even better when you by undervolting
them"

 
#6 Author: robvia (View my Profile) at 05:31am 06/29/2005  
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A backup article would be a good idea. Not enough people
understand what is needed, and most gaming sites don't post that
type of article because they always reformat their test machines.

You could explain the importance of setting restore points, and
using M$ backup to save the system state to a folder on another
drive, it's about 500 megs.

Then you could talk about backing up important directories to DVDs.
Yes, it would take a Spindle to back up a full hard drive, but it's
better than losing everything.

Many kids talk about raid and ghosting, this is not a good backup
solution and people are just fooling themselves.

Raid doesn't work because if a drive becomes corrupted with a virus,
it will corrupt the other drive as well.

Ghosting doesn't work because you only get 1 copy of the OS.
Dat/DLT tapes work the best because you get multiple copies, the
down side is most can't afford it.

So a good article would be to take a system where you have the OS
and apps on your C drive, and data (music, pictures) on the D drive.
Set a restore point, back up the system state to the D drive, back
up both drives to DVDs, and pretend the C drive just got wasted.
Now bring it all back, reformatting C, reloading the OS, reloading
the DVD, and restoring the system state.

 
#5 Author: GX-Alan at 05:12am 06/29/2005  
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Thanks -- if you like these articles, forward the links to your
friends and make sure your friend forward the link to *their*
friends. One more surprise is coming...


Even RAID-0 systems shouldn't crash all the time -- if your RAID
system is unstable, the first culprit may be the power. With RAID,
you worry about mechanical failure of the HDD and with RAID-0 your
chance of losing data is twice as much as a single drive (only
because you have 2 drives now, and any one of those two can cause
trouble).


Our philosophy is that for home users/workstation users, regular
manual backups is something very do-able. You should always assume
that your HDD is unstable and make efforts to regularly back-up your
data. Sometimes it's as simple as emailing your important document
to your gmail account, etc.

 
#4 Author: Anonymous at 03:02am 06/29/2005  
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Great articles - keep going! :)

One question though, when the authour was talking about HDDs in the
first article, he said that a dream system would include 2 hdds in
Raid 0 setup + some more hdds for other stuff (like temp files,
swap)...so I was wondering what raid 0 hdds were for? :) Games
only?

Is it so dangerous to run OS and store files on raid 0 systems
because it crashes frequently?

 
#3 Author: GX-Alan at 10:50pm 06/28/2005  
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Well this was supposed to build the article even more. The
benchmarks are coming in part 4, I guarantee that. The only other
hint I'll drop is that the surprises aren't all over...

 
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